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Good leadership is connecting with stories, guest, avid storyteller Graham Brown

Graham Brown · March 1, 2022

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Interview with Graham Brown

Good leadership is connecting with stories, guest, avid storyteller Graham Brown

Podcast: Soul-Inspired-Leadership

March 1, 2022

Good leadership is how you connect with people and one of the best ways to connect with people is through storytelling. Graham Brown that's does brilliantly. A great communicator. He brings forth how storytelling aids leadership. In business storytelling is not about fairy…

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Key topicsHow Leaders Can Use Podcast Guesting to Build Trust FastMany CEOs and founders struggle to quickly establish credibility and trust with new audiences without lengthy campaigns or costly advertising. They seek efficient, authentic ways to connect and be seen as thought leaders. Graham Brown’s Podcast Guesting Pro specializes in securing multiple aligned podcast bookings in a short timeframe, focusing on authentic storytelling rather than self-promotion. His system draws from years of booking diverse leaders and designing guest narratives that resonate deeply, rapidly accelerating audience trust and familiarity. Listeners will walk away with concrete tactics for selecting the right podcasts, shaping compelling guest stories, and pacing appearances to build genuine connections quickly. Graham’s approach empowers leaders to leverage guest spots as strategic trust-building milestones. Why Podcasting Challenges Executive Comfort ZonesMany corporate leaders feel uneasy stepping into the podcast spotlight; they often expect formal presentations and rehearsed speeches but find the conversational nature of podcasts disarming. This discomfort leads to communication that feels scripted and distant, limiting authentic connection with their audience. Drawing on over 15 years of experience bridging formal communications with podcasting's informal style, Graham Brown has guided executives through this shift. His work with top CEOs reshapes their approach to storytelling, encouraging spontaneity and genuine dialogue. His frameworks integrate cognitive psychology insights to help leaders become more relatable without sacrificing authority. Listeners will gain a clear understanding of how stepping outside typical business communication norms on podcasts enhances approachability and trust. Graham reveals practical techniques for leaders to embrace vulnerability and natural conversation, transforming their public presence and improving audience engagement. The Power of Business Storytelling in the Digital AgeGraham Brown can discuss the transformative impact of storytelling on brand building, emphasizing the need for authenticity and relatability in a world dominated by digital noise. Drawing from his extensive experience, he can share insights on how compelling narratives create lasting connections with audiences and customers. View all topics →

About Graham Brown

Graham Brown, podcast guest

Author and Podcast Guesting Specialist for Corporate Leaders

3,000+ Podcast host & guest appearances16 books Published author250+ clients Served across 60 countriesUniversity of Sussex AI & Cognitive Psychology graduate

Graham Brown is an author and founder of Podcast Guesting Pro who helps corporate leaders, founders, and storytellers get booked on aligned podcasts and build thought leadership.

He began his career studying youth mobile behaviour and founded mobileYouth in 2001 to understand youth marketing and mobile culture; that early work serving clients such as Nokia, Vodafone, MTV, and Disney shaped his focus on audience insight.

Over time he moved from youth research into audio after seeing business leaders struggle to communicate authentically at scale, which led him to found a full-service corporate podcast agency and develop programs to train hosts and producers.

His route into podcasting combines formal study in Artificial Intelligence and Cognitive Psychology at the University of Sussex and Entrepreneurship training at Harvard Business School Online with decades of client-facing agency work.

He helps corporate leaders, startup founders, and storytellers find their voice. He leads Pikkal & Co, an award-winning corporate podcast agency, and runs Podcast Guesting Pro.

He previously hosted Asia Tech Podcast and previously grew mobileYouth to over 250 clients in 60 countries; his agencies operate from Singapore with partner studios across Australia, Austria, Canada, Croatia, Ireland, Sweden, the UAE, the UK, and the USA.

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About this episode

Good leadership is how you connect with people and one of the best ways to connect with people is through storytelling.

Graham Brownthat's does brilliantly. A great communicator. He brings forth how storytelling aids leadership.

In business storytelling is not about fairy tales. It's about creating a connection using empathy. There's an art and science to storytelling.

One can use one word to communicate change or give a picture of what's happening. In that word itself lies the story as we all have various analogies in our memory that's triggered through reading or hearing that word.

As a leader this is very helpful as, often, you do not have a lot of bandwidth to communicate. The necessity of being crisp and clear in getting the message clearly communicated is a vital need. Using a powerful analogy or story helps you do this and gets people to understand what comes next.

If one looks at the psychology of storytelling the brain doesn't understand the difference between past, present and future. It doesn't have that concept. It only knows experience.

What powerful stories do and great leaders are able to do is to take an unknown future and connect it with a known past.

As a leader you can use these techniques to create change and help people understand.

Good leadership is good storytelling. It's about how you take the short form storytelling and package the unknown.

As people we consume stories because it helps us understand information through frames we are very familiar with.

When leaders fail in their communication is when they don't use a frame people are familiar with. They don't borrow what works and try and create something new and ends up creating confusion to the reader or listener.

In business there's this entire psychology of naïve realism that's present. We stop make believe because we think that's childish. We flip over to using data and logic. That's needed yet that's not what people buy into. People buy into the experience and within that packaging is the data and logic required to aid the decision making.

Today as society and leaders we are challenged to create this connection. A lot of the talk is about the future of work; how do we find meaning; how we create teams in this disconnected world; how do we create voices of diversity and so on. Storytelling is a great way of addressing these. Historically storytelling has been a powerful way of creating connections emotionally.

As a leader be being seen as a human, fallible, imperfect and not having all the answers gives a frame that helps people relate and accept. Leaders have to keep in mind that they are the brand where people are concerned. Be it a founder owner or CEO of a large company.

When it comes to creating and driving change it's all about how, as a leader, you are able to connect with your people at an emotional level. It's hard because you don't see it but you definitely feel it.

Graham can be contacted at:

https://www.pikkal.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamdbrown/

https://twitter.com/GrahamDBrown

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