Profit Answer Man: Scaling with Profit First & Beyond

How to Build a Business You Can Actually Sell with Saul Cohen

Saul Cohen · December 16, 2025

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How to Build a Business You Can Actually Sell with Saul Cohen

Podcast: Profit Answer Man: Scaling with Profit First & Beyond

December 16, 2025 · 43 min

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Key topicsYour accounts are the story buyers use to decide what your business is really worthMost business owners treat accounts as something they need for tax, compliance, or year-end reporting, but buyers read them as a story about future risk. Saul brings a different lens from his background in risk, assurance, and acquisitions: the numbers are only valuable when they explain how reliable the business is, how cash is generated, and how exposed the company may be without the founder. He helps owners understand that valuation is not just a multiple applied to profit; it is a judgement about systems, clients, team structure, recurring revenue, legal exposure, and the confidence a buyer can place in the business. This is a strong fit for finance, CPA, founder, and professional-services podcasts that want to make accounting feel commercially urgent rather than technical. How Founders Protect Personal Wealth While the Business Is Still GrowingSaul Cohen watches founders build a valuable company and keep almost none of it anywhere else. A chartered accountant (ICAEW) who has advised on more than 100 transactions, he argues that personal wealth planning cannot wait for the exit, because most of the structuring that saves real money has to be in place years before a sale process starts. He covers where a founder's money actually sits, how profits leave the company without triggering avoidable tax, and which decisions become irreversible the moment a buyer appears. He also names the false economy he sees most often: paying for compliance work and calling it planning. Listeners get a clear view of what to put in place while the business is still earning.Track Record — Why Buyers Trust the Numbers That Repeat, Not the Ones That PeakSaul Cohen reads a set of accounts the way a buyer does, not the way a tax return does. Trained at PwC and now an advisor on more than 100 transactions covering over £450M of acquired revenue, he can show why two businesses with identical profits get very different offers. The gap sits in earnings quality: whether the revenue comes back next year, whether the cash actually arrives, whether one good year is quietly carrying the average. He walks through the lines a buyer tests first, and what a founder can still fix inside the current year's numbers. Listeners leave knowing which figures to make boring and repeatable before anyone asks to see them.View all topics →

About Saul Cohen

Saul Cohen, podcast guest

Empowering Entrepreneurs with Strategic Financial Advice

1 Business sold before starting his PwC careerPwC Assurance & Risk Management experience£1M+ Annual earnings of business owners he advisesPartner The Expert Eye

Saul Cohen is an experienced accountant, acquisitions advisor, and passionate advocate for entrepreneurship. With a distinguished career that spans top-tier firms such as PwC and leadership roles at The Expert Eye, Saul has honed his expertise in financial audits, risk analysis, and strategic acquisitions. He is committed to empowering entrepreneurs to transition from business operators to savvy investors, unlocking their full potential.

Drawing inspiration from personal experiences, including his father’s entrepreneurial journey, Saul has dedicated his career to helping small businesses and startups navigate the complexities of tax planning, acquisitions, and exit strategies. His holistic approach not only enhances business valuations but also enables entrepreneurs to reclaim their time and achieve financial freedom.

Saul’s work is characterized by a creative and practical approach to accounting, blending technical expertise with actionable strategies. His unique perspective resonates with successful business owners earning £1M+ annually, particularly those eager to optimize their wealth, prepare for business exits, or make impactful acquisitions.

As a podcast guest, Saul brings inspiring stories, actionable advice, and a passion for empowering entrepreneurs to achieve lasting success and drive positive change in their communities.

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About this episode

How to Build a Business You Can Actually Sell withSaul Cohen

Most business owners say the same thing: "I want to grow as big as I can."

But when you press them on what they really want—time freedom, a great income, flexibility with their family—they're actually describing a lifestyle business, not a high-growth scale-up destined for a huge exit.

In this episode of Profit Answer Man, Rocky Lalvani talks with Saul Cohen, an accountant and advisor who helps ambitious entrepreneurs grow through acquisition and prepare for a successful exit. Together, they unpack the difference between chasing revenue and deliberately building assets and wealth inside your business.

In This Episode, You'll Learn:

Lifestyle Business vs Scale-Up: What Are You Really Building? Saul explains the critical fork in the road most owners never consciously choose. A lifestyle business is built to deliver strong income and flexibility now; a scale-up is built to reinvest profits into assets for a bigger exit later. The decisions, trade-offs, and timelines are totally different. Why Hustle Isn't a Strategy—and Maturity Wins. Saul shares the story of his first business, launched in his early twenties, and how a competitor with more experience and maturity quietly built a far more valuable company. The lesson? Execution, focus, and intention beat hustle and blind optimism every time. How Wealth Is Really Built: Assets and the Balance Sheet. Rocky reminds us that profit is only part of the story. Real wealth shows up on the balance sheet—in assets, not just income. The problem? Most owners never read their balance sheet as a series and have no idea whether they're actually building wealth or just spinning their wheels. Where Acquirers Find Hidden Profit After the Sale. When a "mediocre" business is sold, a new owner often finds profit quickly—not because they're smarter, but because they're less emotionally attached and more objective. Saul explains how strategic add-on acquisitions (like buying a supplier or complementary service) can boost margins, cross-sell opportunities, and overall business value. The Investor Mindset: Working On the Business, Not Just In It. Both Rocky and Saul emphasize the need to step out of firefighting mode, take time away from the office, and think like an investor. When you step back and ask, "What are my real opportunities and threats? Where's the biggest payoff for my time and capital?" the path to better cash flow and a stronger exit becomes much clearer.

Key Takeaways:

Most owners are accidentally building lifestyle businesses while pretending they're building scale-ups. Wealth is created by assets, not just hustle or revenue. Gross margin and business model clarity matter far more than top-line bragging rights. Your second business will often scale faster—if you integrate the lessons from your first. Taking time out to think like an investor is one of the highest-ROI activities you can do.

Bio:

Saul Cohen is a chartered accountant and founder of SC Digital Advisory, a boutique firm helping business owners grow through acquisition, optimize profit, and prepare for successful exits. With more than 20 years in finance and entrepreneurship, Saul blends hands-on operational insight with deep financial acumen to help owners turn complex challenges into scalable systems. He's advised seven- and eight-figure founders across sectors on strategy, M&A, and value creation.

Links:

https://www.scdigitaladvisory.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saulcohenuk

Conclusion:

You don't need to copy the tech unicorns or chase a nine-figure exit to win. You just need to be honest about the kind of business—and life—you actually want, then align your decisions with that reality.

For some, that's a highly profitable lifestyle business with strong margins, great clients, and plenty of free time. For others, it's a focused scale-up strategy, reinvesting profits to build assets and position for a major exit.

Either way, the path runs through the same disciplines:

knowing your numbers, understanding your business model, building real assets, and learning to think like an investor, not just an operator.

If you're ready to turn your business into a true wealth-building engine—not just a stressful job with a logo—this episode with Saul Cohen is a powerful place to start.

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