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Business Exit Advisor: Save £4,000, Retire A Millionaire! Most Owners Never Do - Saul Cohen

Saul Cohen · July 15, 2026

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Business Exit Advisor: Save £4,000, Retire A Millionaire! Most Owners Never Do - Saul Cohen

Podcast: The Grown UP Business Podcast

July 15, 2026 · 1 hr 36 min

What if the biggest barrier to scaling your business isn't marketing or sales, but how you think about your numbers, your tax strategy, and your exit plan? In this episode of The Grown UP Business Podcast, Paul Avins sits down with Saul Cohen, founder of ExpertEye and one of…

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Key topicsYour accounts are the story buyers use to decide what your business is really worthMost business owners treat accounts as something they need for tax, compliance, or year-end reporting, but buyers read them as a story about future risk. Saul brings a different lens from his background in risk, assurance, and acquisitions: the numbers are only valuable when they explain how reliable the business is, how cash is generated, and how exposed the company may be without the founder. He helps owners understand that valuation is not just a multiple applied to profit; it is a judgement about systems, clients, team structure, recurring revenue, legal exposure, and the confidence a buyer can place in the business. This is a strong fit for finance, CPA, founder, and professional-services podcasts that want to make accounting feel commercially urgent rather than technical. Track Record — Why Buyers Trust the Numbers That Repeat, Not the Ones That PeakSaul Cohen reads a set of accounts the way a buyer does, not the way a tax return does. Trained at PwC and now an advisor on more than 100 transactions covering over £450M of acquired revenue, he can show why two businesses with identical profits get very different offers. The gap sits in earnings quality: whether the revenue comes back next year, whether the cash actually arrives, whether one good year is quietly carrying the average. He walks through the lines a buyer tests first, and what a founder can still fix inside the current year's numbers. Listeners leave knowing which figures to make boring and repeatable before anyone asks to see them.How Founders Protect Personal Wealth While the Business Is Still GrowingSaul Cohen watches founders build a valuable company and keep almost none of it anywhere else. A chartered accountant (ICAEW) who has advised on more than 100 transactions, he argues that personal wealth planning cannot wait for the exit, because most of the structuring that saves real money has to be in place years before a sale process starts. He covers where a founder's money actually sits, how profits leave the company without triggering avoidable tax, and which decisions become irreversible the moment a buyer appears. He also names the false economy he sees most often: paying for compliance work and calling it planning. Listeners get a clear view of what to put in place while the business is still earning.View all topics →

About Saul Cohen

Saul Cohen, podcast guest

Empowering Entrepreneurs with Strategic Financial Advice

1 Business sold before starting his PwC careerPwC Assurance & Risk Management experience£1M+ Annual earnings of business owners he advisesPartner The Expert Eye

Saul Cohen is an experienced accountant, acquisitions advisor, and passionate advocate for entrepreneurship. With a distinguished career that spans top-tier firms such as PwC and leadership roles at The Expert Eye, Saul has honed his expertise in financial audits, risk analysis, and strategic acquisitions. He is committed to empowering entrepreneurs to transition from business operators to savvy investors, unlocking their full potential.

Drawing inspiration from personal experiences, including his father’s entrepreneurial journey, Saul has dedicated his career to helping small businesses and startups navigate the complexities of tax planning, acquisitions, and exit strategies. His holistic approach not only enhances business valuations but also enables entrepreneurs to reclaim their time and achieve financial freedom.

Saul’s work is characterized by a creative and practical approach to accounting, blending technical expertise with actionable strategies. His unique perspective resonates with successful business owners earning £1M+ annually, particularly those eager to optimize their wealth, prepare for business exits, or make impactful acquisitions.

As a podcast guest, Saul brings inspiring stories, actionable advice, and a passion for empowering entrepreneurs to achieve lasting success and drive positive change in their communities.

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About this episode

What if the biggest barrier to scaling your business isn't marketing or sales, but how you think about your numbers, your tax strategy, and your exit plan?

In this episode of The Grown UP Business Podcast, Paul Avins sits down withSaul Cohen, founder of ExpertEye and one of the UK's most experienced acquisition advisors. Saul started his career at PwC and has been involved in over 150 acquisitions before turning 35. He sold his first business before entering the corporate world, and now helps entrepreneurs optimize their tax, understand valuations, and navigate acquisitions with clarity and confidence.

Saul shares why most entrepreneurs don't understand their numbers, when it's time to change accountants, how to save thousands in tax every year, and why £4,000 saved annually can add up to an extra million pounds at retirement. Paul and Saul unpack the myths around business valuations, why most accountants use finger in the air guesswork, and how to know what your business is actually worth.

They explore the difference between lifestyle businesses and performance businesses, why most entrepreneurs wait too long to exit, the 18 month minimum timeline to sell a business, and the psychology behind why deals fall apart. Saul introduces his SCORE framework, a valuation model built from 150 acquisitions that measures systems, commercial strength, operations, regulatory risk, and exposure. He explains why culture can kill a deal even when the financials look perfect, and shares stories of incredible acquisitions and absolute car crashes.

If you're building a business and want to understand how to create real value, protect your wealth, and play the long game with your finances, this episode is essential.

What you'll learn:

• Why most entrepreneurs don't understand their numbers and how that holds them back

• When you should change accountants and what to look for in a great one

• How saving £4,000 a year in tax can give you an extra million pounds at retirement

• The three games of money: making it, keeping it, and investing it

• Why accountants aren't all created equal and how to level up your advisory team

• How accountants calculate valuations and why most use finger in the air guesswork

• Why businesses over a million pounds in profit have a higher multiple and more options

• The biggest mistakes entrepreneurs make when trying to exit and why they wait too long

• Why it takes a minimum of 18 months to sell a business and how to prepare for it

• The SCORE framework: systems, commercial, operations, regulatory, and exposure

• Why culture can cap your valuation even when the financials look perfect

• How to bring in a fractional CFO at the right time and what they should actually do

• Why the best acquisition Saul ever saw was a £2.5 million profit business sold for £10 million

• Why you should get your business professionally valued every two years

• The baby boomer wave and biggest transfer of wealth in a generation

• Why underselling your promise in marketing can increase conversions and create raving fans

Apply this:

Get your business professionally valued in the next 90 days. If you don't know what it's worth, you can't grow its value intentionally.

Ask yourself: am I building a lifestyle business or a performance business? Your tax strategy, extraction method, and reinvestment plan depend on this answer.

Audit your accountant. How many clients do they have at your level? How much M&A experience do they have? If the answer is none, it's time to level up your advisory team.

Calculate your life changing number. How much money do you actually need invested to never worry again? Work backwards from that and build your exit plan.

Meet with your accountant at least twice a year, ideally every quarter if you're over a million in revenue. Use those meetings to optimize tax, refine margins, and plan for growth.

About Saul Cohen

Saul Cohen is the founder of ExpertEye and one of the UK's most experienced acquisition advisors. He started his career at PwC and has been involved in over 150 acquisitions before turning 35. Saul helps entrepreneurs optimize their tax, understand their valuations, and navigate acquisitions with confidence. He is creator of the SCORE valuation framework and author of the new book Finding Gold, which reveals the patterns of what goes wrong in acquisitions and how to avoid them.

Connect with Saul on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cohensaul/

Take the tax saving scorecard: https://stopoverpayingtax.scoreapp.com/

Grab a copy of Finding Gold: https://findinggoldbook.com/

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