Daniel Atlin · September 26, 2026
Podcast: Next to Madison
September 26, 2026 · 51 min
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Executive Advisor on Leadership in Complex Organizations & Host of Messy with Daniel Atlin
30+ years Senior leadership experience25 University leaders interviewed for research4 Countries represented in leadership researchExecutive Master's Oxford Saïd & HEC Paris
Daniel Atlin works at the intersection of leadership, complexity, and sensemaking.
Over more than three decades in senior roles across Canada’s post-secondary, cooperative, and government sectors, he has worked alongside leaders navigating high stakes change: strategic plans, mergers, fundraising, and institutional transformation. His work was often in environments where authority is diffuse, priorities compete, and there are no clear answers.
That experience led to a central question that now anchors his work: Why does leadership so often look different in practice than it does in theory?
Through an Executive Master’s degree with Oxford Saïd Business School and HEC Paris, Daniel studied how university leaders make sense of complexity in real time. His research which was based on interviews with 25 university presidents across the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand continue to shape his work as a strategic advisor, executive coach, and educator. He has expanded that research into other complex, mission-based organizations such as hospitals, NGOs, and government agencies.
Today, Daniel helps leaders navigate what he calls the “messy” reality of leadership—where clarity is partial, systems are human, and progress depends as much on interpretation and judgment as it does on strategy.
Is college still worth it? With tuition rising and more people questioning the value of a traditional degree, higher education is being forced to evolve.
On this episode of Next to Madison, I sit down with executive coach and advisorDaniel Atlinto talk about how universities are adapting, what students really need to succeed in today’s world, and why the conversation around the value of college is changing.
We also dive into what it actually takes to be a great leader. Daniel shares why leadership isn’t about having all the answers, why asking for help is a strength, and how the best leaders create environments where people feel comfortable speaking up, collaborating and growing.
It’s a conversation about education, leadership, career growth and why sometimes the strongest thing you can do is admit you don’t know everything.
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Guest: Daniel Atlin
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