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Measuring Workplace Joy: Georgina Woodley on Energy, Culture, and the Joy-O-Meter

Georgina Woodley · October 5, 2026

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Measuring Workplace Joy: Georgina Woodley on Energy, Culture, and the Joy-O-Meter

Podcast: Resilience Unravelled

October 5, 2026 · 33 min

Host Dr Russell Thackeray interviews Georgina Woodley in Perth, Australia about her background in big-four consulting, strategy, and 20+ years in market research, and her interest in applying personal-development “energy” concepts to organisations. They discuss how people sense…

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Key topicsGoing Through the Motions — What Presenteeism Does to Decisions Before Anyone Stops Showing UpGeorgina Woodley spent more than 20 years running customer insight and market research for large Australian organisations, including 13 years as Managing Director for Australia and New Zealand at BVA BDRC, and she argues the most expensive people in a business are often the ones who never miss a day. Attendance, output and engagement scores all read normal while stress and cognitive load strip the capacity behind decisions, creativity and collaboration. She built the Joy-O-Meter, the first application of her Human Energy Intelligence framework, to measure that gap directly instead of inferring it from a yearly engagement survey. She names the patterns that produce it: meetings that decide nothing, work that stays invisible until it fails, and structures that reward presence over contribution. Listeners leave able to tell a team that is present from a team that is working, and knowing what to check before next quarter's numbers explain it for them.The Barometer in the Room — What Consciousness Techniques Register That a Survey MissesGeorgina Woodley runs two methods side by side inside the same client project: the orthodox market research she built a 20-year career on, and the practices she calls technologies of consciousness. She spent 13 years as Managing Director for Australia and New Zealand at BVA BDRC before putting the second set anywhere near a corporate brief, and she is direct about why the pairing holds: a questionnaire collects what people are willing to write down, while attention and state work surface what a team is actually carrying that week. She walks through how both run in one project, what gets asked, what gets recorded, and where the two data sets disagree. She also names the point where the softer method stops earning its place and the numbers have to take over. Listeners hear what it takes to put a method like this inside a live corporate project without losing the room.Written Off — How Capable People Get Counted Out Before Anyone Asks WhyGeorgina Woodley keeps meeting the same misread: a capable person whose output drops is handled as a performance problem. She argues that stress and cognitive load change decisions, creativity and collaboration months before anything moves on a dashboard, so the label lands long before the cause is understood. Drawing on the Human Energy Intelligence framework she developed, she shows what reduced capacity actually looks like in a meeting, a decision and a handover, and how it differs from disengagement. Listeners leave able to tell those two apart in their own teams, and to check the state of a person before they judge the work.View all topics →

About Georgina Woodley

Insight Strategist | Human Energy Intelligence

20+ years Customer insight and organisational performance3-part ecosystem Custology Insights, Joy-O-Meter and TTIMBA AGSM at UNSW Business SchoolChief Insights Officer Custology Insights

Human Energy Intelligence/ Organisational/ Performance Leadership/ Customer Experience

Georgina Woodley is an insight strategist in the emerging field of Human Energy Intelligence—a business framework for understanding how the invisible human factors inside organisations influence performance, leadership, customer experience and business outcomes.

After more than two decades leading customer insight and market research for some of Australia's largest organisations, Georgina began questioning a fundamental assumption: what if organisations are measuring performance outcomes while remaining blind to the human forces creating them? That question became the foundation of her work.

Drawing on more than 20 years of experience in consulting, market research and customer psychology—including Deloitte Consulting, Managing Director ANZ for BVA BDRC, and now as Chief Insights Officer of Custology Insights—Georgina combines rigorous business research with a fresh perspective on organisational performance.

Her work explores how human state influences decision-making, creativity, collaboration and innovation, arguing that performance is not just driven by strategy—it is driven by the state of the people executing it.

This thinking led Georgina to develop Human Energy Intelligence, a business framework for understanding the invisible human drivers of organisational performance. Its first application, Joy-O-Meter, is a methodology designed to help organisations measure and better understand those invisible human dynamics.

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Host Dr Russell Thackeray interviewsGeorgina Woodleyin Perth, Australia about her background in big-four consulting, strategy, and 20+ years in market research, and her interest in applying personal-development “energy” concepts to organisations.

They discuss how people sense workplace culture, how individual mood and “underlying human state” affects meetings, authenticity, and leadership responsibilities to support mental wellbeing.

Woodley introduces Joy-o-meter, a measurement framework/program that assesses customer and staff experience plus the underlying human state to reveal patterns, capacity, and friction points affecting performance, loyalty, burnout risk, absenteeism, and turnover.

She argues joy is a strategic advantage linked to creativity, flow, and psychological safety, and contrasts joy measurement with satisfaction and NPS. Joy-o-meter uses succinct quantitative surveys with open-ended comments, can isolate current issues from past experiences, and is delivered flexibly via reporting, workshops, or dashboards.

Contact is via LinkedIn and joy-o-meter.com.

00:00 Summer vs Aussie Winter

01:39 Meet Georgina Woodley

02:30 What Energy Means at Work

06:19 Authenticity and Mood Responsibility

10:11 Measuring Joy with Joy-o-meter

12:59 Why Joy Drives Performance

16:36 Beyond NPS and Satisfaction

19:34 How Joy-o-meter Works in Practice

21:57 Finding Friction and Burnout Risk

26:30 Expectations and Better Signals

29:08 Where to Learn More