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How to Make Your Ambition Work for You with Hugo Brooks

Hugo Brooks · October 20, 2026

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October 20, 2026 · 48 min

In this TNM unplugged episode, Zoran and Hugo explore ambition not simply as the desire for money, status or achievement, but as a powerful human force, what Hugo describes as the desire to make tomorrow better than yesterday. They explore where ambition comes from, how social…

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Key topicsRestless Age — Why Successful People Still Feel Like They Haven't ArrivedHugo Brooks spent more than 35 years building, growing and selling brand, innovation and communications businesses, advising Coca-Cola, Unilever, Nestlé and Virgin, before a single question from his wife made him step off the entrepreneurial treadmill: "Are you sure you want to do this again?" His book Ambition: Redefining Success for a Restless Age asks why so many successful people still feel restless, drawing on evolutionary biology, neuroscience and social history to treat ambition as a human force behind almost every decision we make, not a trait some people simply have more of. He sets aside productivity hacks and motivational slogans for a harder question: not how ambitious you are, but whether your ambition is taking you where you actually want to go. From his coaching of senior executives, founders and ambitious creatives through Magnetic North, he explains the hidden patterns that stop achievement turning into fulfilment. Listeners leave with a way to test whether their drive is serving the life they want to build.Why your greatest strength can quietly become your biggest addictionThe same ambition that helps people build successful careers can gradually become impossible to switch off, leaving achievement feeling less like fulfilment and more like obligation. Hugo shares how ambition can shift from being a powerful source of growth into a compulsive cycle of dissatisfaction, drawing on both his personal experience and the research behind his forthcoming book Ambition: Redefining Success for a Restless Age. Rather than encouraging listeners to lower their ambitions, he offers a new way of understanding and directing that energy before it begins to define their identity. Audiences will discover why sustainable success depends less on Cruise Control — Why Founders Chase Goals Someone Else Set in MotionHugo Brooks spent 35 years building and selling brand, innovation and communications agencies before he noticed how few of his own goals he had actually picked. He advised Coca-Cola, Unilever, Nestlé and Virgin while running his own firms, and he argues that most founders are executing a plan they inherited from family, industry or their younger selves. Drawing on evolutionary biology, neuroscience and social history for his book Ambition: Redefining Success for a Restless Age, he separates the ambition a founder owns from the ambition that owns them. He explains why the milestone that was supposed to feel like arrival keeps moving, and what to check before committing to the next one. Listeners leave able to name whose goal they are actually chasing.View all topics →

About Hugo Brooks

Hugo Brooks, podcast guest

Ambition Strategist & Author

35+ years Building, growing and selling businesses4 global brands Advised Coca-Cola, Unilever, Nestlé and VirginPublished author Ambition: Redefining Success for a Restless AgeMagnetic North Coaching practice

Hugo Brooks is an Ambition Strategist, speaker and author who helps founders, business leaders and ambitious creatives rethink one of the most powerful forces shaping their lives: ambition.

After more than 35 years building, growing and selling brand, innovation and communications businesses, Hugo reached a turning point. Having advised global organisations including Coca-Cola, Unilever, Nestlé and Virgin while navigating the highs and lows of entrepreneurship himself, a single question from his wife changed everything: "Are you sure you want to do this again?" That moment led him to step off the entrepreneurial treadmill and dedicate his second career to helping others build success that is consciously chosen rather than unconsciously inherited.

Today, through coaching, speaking and his book, Ambition: Redefining Success for a Restless Age, Hugo challenges the conventional belief that ambition is simply about achieving bigger goals. Instead, he argues that ambition is a powerful human force that drives almost every decision we make -and that the real question is not how ambitious we are, but whether our ambition is taking us where we truly want to go. Drawing on evolutionary biology, neuroscience, social history and his own entrepreneurial journey, he helps leaders understand the hidden patterns that shape their choices and shows how to align ambition with the life they genuinely want to build.

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In this TNM unplugged episode, Zoran and Hugo explore ambition not simply as the desire for money, status or achievement, but as a powerful human force, what Hugo describes as the desire to make tomorrow better than yesterday.

They explore where ambition comes from, how social conditioning attaches itself to our ambition, why achievement can become compulsive, and why reaching our goals often provides satisfaction for only a fleeting moment before we begin chasing the next one.Hugo introduces a powerful metaphor: we spend much of our lives travelling down the corridor towards the doors representing our goals, yet very little time actually passing through those doors.

The question therefore becomes: Are we creating a life that is meaningful only when we reach the destination, or is the journey itself worth living?

As leaders operate in an increasingly fast, performance-driven and AI-native world, this conversation is an invitation to stop, examine the force driving us and consciously decide where we want our ambition to take us.

Topics Explored:

Hugo’s journey as a serial entrepreneurThe question from his wife that changed his directionWhy ambitious people rarely stop to examine ambition itselfAmbition as a force rather than simply a goalThe desire to make tomorrow better than yesterdayThe three stages of the “ambition machine”Dissatisfaction, desire and determinationSocial conditioning and inherited definitions of successWhy ambition does not naturally have a stop buttonThe danger of allowing ambition to manage usWhy achievement can become compulsiveLearning to celebrate success before asking “what’s next?”Hugo’s corridor and doors metaphorWhy most of life happens on the journey towards the goalLooking at goals from the other sideCorporate goals versus personal definitions of success“What is success?” versus “What is success for me?”Personal values as a compass for ambitionThe eulogy exerciseAligning ambition with what genuinely mattersAmbition during different stages of lifeMidlife, mortality and changing definitions of successWhy younger generations are asking different questionsLeadership and ambition in a changing worldHugo’s early success and subsequent loss of everythingThe “fighter pilot” storyDirecting ambition consciously rather than being driven by itKey Takeaways:

Ambition is a force, not a destination.At its simplest, ambition can be understood as the desire to make tomorrow better than yesterday.Ambition itself may be neutral, but the direction we give it determines its impact.Social conditioning can quietly determine what we pursue without us consciously choosing it.Ambition naturally wants movement, which is why stopping and questioning our direction can feel uncomfortable.Achieving a goal may last only moments, while pursuing it can occupy years of our lives.The quality of the “corridor” matters as much as the door at the end.We need to look at our goals from the other side and ask whether achieving them will actually create the life we want.“What is success?” and “What is success for me?” are fundamentally different questions.Personal values can provide the compass that ambition itself does not provide.Conscious ambition does not necessarily mean becoming less successful or less driven.Leaders can help people connect organisational objectives with meaningful personal goals.Different stages of life may require different expressions of ambition.Sometimes what looks like a midlife crisis may actually be a moment when our old definition of success no longer fits our life.The goal is not to eliminate ambition. The goal is to consciously direct it.Hugo Brooksis an Ambition Strategist and author who helps founders and senior leaders question whether their drive is taking them towards a consciously chosen life or simply keeping them in motion.

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