Reprogram Your Mind & Body: The Science of Exponential Intelligence

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I don't claim to cure anybody or heal anybody, they cure themselves, but I just point out where they can go, and this is where they result a lot of their health issues, or recycling patterns that people have. And this is where, also, if you've been, say, sick all your life, you go from one disease to the other, to the other, to the other. Again, it's the environment that dictates what you have and what you can heal from. You are listening to The Pain and Performance Podcast with Dr. Derrick Hines. Hey, everyone. Derrick Hines here.

Welcome to the podcast where I'll share with you the patterns, insights, research and technologies that we use in my own pain and performance practice to help people improve their health, speed their healing and increase their longevity. Thanks for listening. I hope you enjoy it. Good day, my friends. Today, I have one of the more interesting and thought-provoking podcasts I've had in a while. Masati is such a interesting thinker. After a bunch of near-death accidents, Masati started kind of realizing that I think there was more happening than might meet the eye, would be the way I explain this.

We've all heard of things like, make sure you're visualizing where you wanna go and setting goals. I really believe that there's a lot that happens when we set intention about what we want, what interactions we want, where we wanna go. And the way that our mind and body and environment react to our intentions is a very real thing. And I think that's by design, and we talk a lot about that. And I know when we're trying to put language on this stuff, it gets challenging because we're trying to use words to describe something that's a very difficult thing, that kind of are these like laws of nature, if you will.

And so when you hear terms like frequencies and these like laws of attraction, I think that messes with us because it does a disservice to what's actually happening and how we can use some of this information in our own lives. If we want to get healthier, knowing and seeing that and not focusing on my pain and problem is a real thing that can change our outcome. If we want to get better, if we want to improve in relationships or any of that stuff. So that's what this episode is about. How do we help get where we want to go and get our brain and body and environment to help us achieve that?

And that's everything that Masati talks about. He's a very interesting guy and I definitely left this episode thinking differently about visualization and setting goals and outcomes and achievement and I hope you will too. So please enjoy this very inspiring conversation with The Great Masati. All right, The Great Masati. Welcome to The Pain and Performance Podcast, man. Derrick, thanks for having me. Long time coming. I know we've gone through a number of iterations, but I'm glad we got the time to work. We were talking before.

So where am I catching you right now? Right now, I'm in Beverly Hills area, doing a movie preview in a movie called Think and Grow Rich, the movie. So that's going to be exciting. Many of our listeners will probably be familiar with that, and I know we'll dive into some of the concepts with that. I thought it would be a good place to kick this off because I get this question all the time, and it's like, if I set a goal, like if I start to say, like, this is where I want to be in the future. Right. What's happening with that process?

I know I'm leaving that super, super broad, but I think that's going to take us into some fun places. Okay. So, let's answer it in two ways. Let's say the conventional way and the exponential intelligence way. It's a science that I created after three near-death experiences. So, the conventional way is that you basically stay in the same environment that you're in and then you bring in wealth. For example, say that you've got a lot of trauma in your life, right? Say that you grew up really poor, you know, the rags to riches stories.

So, in all those situations, you know, you didn't change your identity of who you are. You just again imported, say, something to make you feel better. For example, you still got trauma, you still feel like you're in poverty, and you make a billion dollars. You can see the stories in that, you know, in the documentaries you see from rags to riches stories, they still, you know, the back-end story is like, they still live like they're in poverty. So why is that? They've got billions of dollars, and this is where they want more money and more money.

Or it's the same with spirituality as well. So this isn't about money, not money. It's about staying in the same environment and say, importing what you want. Again, maybe I can give you a better, yeah. This is where addictions. I work with a lot of people in every situation. By the way, I'm not a jack of all trades. I actually help build better humans. And once you build a better human, all aspects of your life get better. So this is where people get addictions, and they go to, I don't know, Betty Ford Clinic and whatever.

And again, I'm not knocking any of those down. They're really fantastic. They help a lot of people. But that person still has that addiction on the inside, and they'll go get another addiction, right? Something that's good for them. So they used to have alcohol now, they're addicted to exercise or reading books or improving themselves. Again, the environment didn't change of who they are. And that's the key, the environment didn't change. In my case, it's like, wait a second, this version of you that lives in this environment that creates, say, cancer for you, and these are real life stories.

This version of you lives in an environment that dictates that you have cancer. Hence, you have cancer. There's another version of you, this gets into the quantum realm, there's another version of you already out there that doesn't have cancer. And then what I do is like, you're in point A, let's go find point B where you really want to be, and what you do is you track out a course. It's just like Google Maps. You're point A, you go to point B, and it's like, oh, then that version of you stops having cancer. And this is where, again, I don't claim to cure anybody or heal anybody.

They cure themselves, but I just point out where they can go. And this is where they result a lot of their health issues or recycling patterns that people have. And this is where also if you've been, say, sick all your life, you go from one disease to the other, to the other, to the other. Again, it's the environment that dictates what you have and what you can heal from. What makes up the environment? What makes up the environment? Well, you know, I just saw a YouTube video and it was quite interesting. So they put these cells, identical cells, 30 billion cells, you know, 10 billion cells in each petri dish, and they changed the environment.

Like, so in this case, if it was in a human body, it'd be the blood. In this case, it was, you know, manufactured blood. And they changed the environment. They changed, I don't know, certain structures of the environment. And those identical cells, one, regenerated bones, one turned into, you know, muscle tissue, one turned into, say, an organ or something like that. You know, that's what dictates, again, your environment dictates who you are, how healthy you get, or how sick that you get, how wealthy that you get.

And I can give you, again, tons of examples where people are highly successful, but they're very poor on the inside, right? People can do everything perfectly, no matter what it is, and they're still sick. There's still people aged like their parents. That was your environment initially. You grew up in your mom's belly for nine months. That was your environment. And you're basically going, gosh, you know, you're looking around and you're sensing the environments. And your first introduction to space and time is like, damn, that's the way this environment is about, huh?

You know, chaos and mistrust and all that. I guess that I'll keep continuing to create that. And then you get out in the environment, you know, you're born and then it's like, yeah, I guess that's the environment. And you just keep replicating it. Here's where I think I started to kind of dive into some of this stuff. So if we look at like, so in my world, I have a regenerative therapy, physical therapy, pain therapy practice, right? We see a lot of this stuff. We know that that cells basically replicate and phase out over, it depends on the cell type, but over a couple of years, all of our cells are new cells.

Yes. And yet I've seen people who have gone through that, and yet they still have the same physical pain pattern that they had before that happened. So you're like, what is happening? What's being passed on to the new cell of, hey, here's how I want you to act in this environment. Here's the structure that we're running. And so for us, it was like, okay, well, a lot of what we focus on is healing the tissue and repairing the tissue and getting that. And then you look at that and you're like, if that happens already, what is still causing this dysfunction?

What's still causing this signal? And that starts to open up into some very interesting areas of like, how would that signal continue to get sent? Right. So in my research, Derrick, and I've done over 100,000 client sessions. So that's a hell of a lot of field study, not like lab study or clinical studies, but actual research on real humans with real changes. So, which I think is more impressive than, you know, clinical studies where everything has to be controlled because you can't control everything, especially in, you know, human biology.

So to answer your question, the reason why those cells replicate is because most, like you were hinting at, most situations, most therapies, most everything address the symptom or the effect. And that's the key. They don't address the cause of why that happened. And usually, the cause is very far apart than the effect. Now, you know, the cause could have happened, you know, by your late grandma, for example, and you inherited all those genes instructions. Not just her, you know, say her pretty blue eyes and all that, but behind those pretty blue eyes, the chaos, the trauma, everything is encoded in, again, that gene instruction.

And then you have grandma's pretty blue eyes, but then you also parallel her life of trauma and strain or disease as well. It makes perfect sense. One of the things that I wanted to ask you about and get your thoughts on is it's older research. It was from like the 70s. Frank et al. on, they were doing research. You're probably familiar with it, but I'm going to get the audience caught up. They were doing research on on mice. And what they did was like they had them go through a maze. And there was like if they went the wrong way, they got like a little shock, if I remember correctly.

And if they got to the end of the maze, they got the cheese, right? They got the the success. So it was like this kind of positive negative feedback loop. They took their offspring and their offspring's offspring and ran them through brand new maze, never seen it. And then they took control mice. Same thing ran them through that. And the mice whose parents learned the maze. Without fail, did it like 30% faster. Don't quote me on the number, but it was quite a bit like statistically significantly faster than control mice.

And even their children did it faster than the control mice children. So it was like the knowledge of this one thing was getting passed down epigenetically. Yes. And when you look at that, you're like, when we talk about like the epigenetics and the encoding stuff, I know people listening to this, that gets up to this level of thinking that we're not always comfortable with. But the studies on this are really, really clear. Like this happens. And a friend of mine gave me such a good thing. He was like, he's got a two year old.

He used to be an MMA fighter. Hasn't wrestled, hasn't done anything in years and years, doesn't watch it anymore. His kids have never been around it. He's got a four year old and a two year old. And he says, I look over and my two year old gets my four year old in like a complex maneuver. And he's watching and he was like, she's doing it on purpose. Like this wasn't an accident. And he's like, wait, wait, her body knew to do that thing. Of course, that's like a small example, but you know, he's like freaking out. He's like, she knew, like she knew it was in there.

Pretty crazy. Give us your thoughts on what's happening when this is getting passed through us. There's a lot of studies on that as well. You know, there's one study in Ireland where they went through famine. So, you know, the big bellies and all that. And, you know, five generations down, they had all these people that's never gone through famine. They've never gone through war, but they elicited, you know, like they were going through famine. It's like, what the hell is going on? You know, they eat the right foods and everything like that, but their bodies elicited like they were in famine.

Now there are individuals who, you know, got stuck in, you know, the concentration camps of Germany, but there's a lot of concentration camps, unfortunately, in the world. But just think of all those individuals in the concentration camps and their family still, say, elicits, say, the patterns where they can't, like, gain weight. They look like literally people from concentration camps and of health. You know, so there's tons and tons of studies on that. Well, from what I see and what I've learned over, gosh, 14 years I've been doing this, is that it's the survival mechanism of your family lineage or the human mastermind.

So if you think of it, Derrick, that it took a war for you to survive. So that is not just in your gene pool. So it's not just, it goes beyond epigenetics. It goes to that natural intelligence that, say, creates whoever we are. And we can get into that if you want. So you're always sending out, say, signals on your survival, unfortunately, in this case, you're actually designed to thrive, but humans have learned to survive. So I think we've demoted ourselves in that case, unfortunately. And my whole work is about, no, wait a second, we're here to thrive, not to just survive.

Anyway, so we've got war, right? The people who, say, lived through war, their gene instructions, just like the mice, right? Their gene instructions get passed into, say, a server. Now, I was a computer programmer back in the day, before I had my near-death experiences. So that gets passed into the server, just like Google does now. You've got millions or billions of inputs every day. That AI, that server learns your habits, and then it spits back what you want, or what's best for you according to their algorithms.

Got it? Same thing with nature. It goes up into the human gene pool above, and it's like, hmm, okay, these guys learned how to survive their environment, and then it sends it back through. It's like, oh, well, we need war to survive, because that's how we survived last time, right? That's just like a nutrition. Now it's turned into something that's nutritious for us. And this is where a lot of successful people go, you need a pain story for you to get motivated. I mean, it's in everything, people who are, they're ill, and again, they have to go to the brink of death before they go, gosh, you don't want, I better stop smoking.

It's in everything that we do. It's just a recursive or a feedback loop that we've got going. Nature doesn't do it that way, though. Hey, my friends, I hope you are enjoying this episode of The Pain and Performance Podcast. We have a goal to get this show into the top 10 of the health and wellness category. And with the amazing guests and the reviews and ratings that we've gotten from y'all, we are well on our way. But if you haven't yet, please take a second and leave a review, leave a rating. That's what really kind of pushes the show forward.

So thank you so much. I will love you and send you a virtual hug. Thanks and back to the show. Yeah, and that would be my question. I think a lot of people, we all have these patterns. I think it's whenever we get to the point where it's not serving us that it's really a problem. We're in persistent pain or chronic pain. We continue to fail at things. Stuff's not going right. We keep having these issues. So I think anyone in that is recognizing there's something not working. Now, they may not be thinking of it on this level, but they know that they're running on a pattern that's not serving them, right?

Absolutely. So you mentioned it earlier, like that version of them is not getting the result that helps them thrive. Right. Whether that's in life or health or business, whatever. Absolutely. So if all of that gets passed down, how do we change that? I know that's the big question, but what's that process of like, I think recognizing it has to be a helpful thing. Right. Referencing, you know, being that observer effect. And, you know, you, I don't know if you've heard that, like the double slit theory, the observer effect, right?

It dictates, you know, what the photons do. Same thing with your life. You, you know, start to separate your identity beyond, say, your time-bound self, and you start to observe yourself from a higher level, a higher order of who you are. Right? And as you do that, you start to observe the habits and patterns that you have. You start to observe, it's like, gosh, you know what? I'm a lot like my mom or I'm a lot like grandma and so on like that. And then again, as you observe deeper and deeper, beyond the mind, by the way, and I've got methods and very simple methods that I could share with you towards the end if you'd like.

Very, very simple that allows you to be an observer beyond the mind. Because most people, they still have the filters and the distortions and the trauma and everything else, and they want to see something different. But if you have those filters, you can't see anything different. As Einstein said, you have to step away from the reality that you're in to actually find a solution. Most people don't do that, right? They find solutions within the same, say, reality, which doesn't work because, again, it's recursive. Let's unpack that a little bit more, I think.

If somebody listened to this and they're like, whatever way I find that my current environment is not serving me, what would be some of the coaching on starting to observe? Like, what's the baby steps of that? Okay. So the baby steps on that, I call it spatial referencing, Derrick. So it steps you away from, say, your mind, again, because your mind is always with you. It's gone through the traumas and all that that you've gone through as well. So again, it's filtered. It's judgmental. So what I do is spatial referencing.

The first step, again, is very, very simple, is that you look at an object and then you consider a point on your body. So the painting is over there to my left. My chin is over here. And it sounds really strange, but it really references you in space and time. And you can do that, like the sounds are coming from behind me. The tip of my nose is here. And again, it sounds really crazy, but just like GPS, because we said that your environment dictates how you render yourself, right? So in this case, it calibrates your GPS system to understand exactly where you are.

And this is where you become the observer of your mind. It sounds crazy, Derrick, but people who have done this get off their psychotic medications. Because it's time and space that disorient their mental state. Is this something that we're just like running through all day? Is this like, hey, look, let's take a few minutes every morning, sit, get oriented, where am I at versus that wall versus that chair? I'm there, that's there, I'm here. Like, is this a momentary practice? How's that translate into a day to day?

So, I would suggest doing it before you sleep, because it allows you to understand where you are in space and time. Especially for those individuals who have a rough time sleeping, okay, because they're too scared. Because sometimes people go, God, if I go to sleep, my higher self will disconnect from me. So, there's a lot of fear of death in people who have sleep issues. So, once you start to reference again, you know, I'm here in bed, you know, the light switch is over there compared to where my body is, and so on like that.

Again, you've got five senses. So, again, always reference the object and then a specific point on your body. It could be anywhere. It doesn't really matter. It's very interesting. One of the things that we have taught patients that, and I've seen incredible results with this, and I have no idea, I'd love to get your thoughts on it, is a body scan, a very simple body scan meditation of like, if you're just sitting here, where is your hand at and what's it feel like? What does each finger feel like? And then like track up.

What about your elbow? What about your shoulder? What about your back? Is there tension there? Is there anything in there? And like that connection, I mean, we had always called it like mind-body connection. Like your mind now becomes more aware of your body. And there's been a ton of research on this. But I was taught a dimmer switch idea one time. And it was like, if you feel tension, put it on a dimmer switch. Where is that at? And just lower the switch, and you'll feel that tension go away. And I've had patients with like severe fibromyalgia, chronic pain, reflex sympathetic disorder, like serious things.

And like I'll tell them this story in a one-off thing in like five minutes, like, oh, try this thing. And people come back and they're like, oh my gosh, like that can take my pain from an eight to a two. Now it's slightly different. So like what is different is probably my question to you. It is different. Should we combine those? Are we steering people the wrong way? No, I think the combination of that is fantastic. So they're talking about, you know, what you're talking about is like, again, like surface level issues, which is really important to address, okay?

I'm talking about the cause of why they have fibromyalgia, for example, because then you'll start to go, wait a second, it's like grandma had, you know, similar issues or diseases that I had. You know, once you start to spatial reference, you literally will start to see where you pick up your habit. People, you know, go as far as going, they look in the mirror and they go, oh my God, my left side feels like Aunt Bessie, and my right side of my face, you know, feels like my dad, and he goes, oh, that's why my face never looks congruent to me.

So, the essence of the person or the wireframe of how you're built or designed starts to come out. And this is where we have control. This is where we can start to manifest. Okay. So, spatial referencing, guys, if you try it just like a couple of minutes a day, for those individuals, you'll see it work really, really fast and you'll do it throughout the day. So, in the morning, you wake up and use spatial reference where you are, it'll center you way beyond any morning hacks or anything that you do. You can still do your morning hacks, but do that first and then do spatial referencing first, and then your morning hack and you go, damn, I'm more present.

So, you can do that throughout your day. If you're going to a meeting, if you're going through whatever, spatial reference first, it'll center you to be your best possible self. I like that. Nature, nature actually spatial references you, by the way. Being in nature. Yeah, being in nature, think of it, Derrick. You go out into raw nature, not like Central Park, New York, because there's so many people that's distorted, the frequencies there. But just raw nature. There's something that literally consumes you, and you're highly aware of it.

Does that make sense? Yeah, for sure. People listening to this have heard me talk about the value of like, they call it forest bathing, right, in other countries. I'm like, you go take a hike in the middle of the woods, surround it. My wife and I do this for our anniversary every year. We like no devices, no nothing, go out into nature, and we'll spend a day and not see another sign of human life. We're just in the woods. And I was like, there is few things in that I have done that is more positively influencing on you just feeling like refreshed, recharged, better, and it's just it's being out there.

To me, it's like, it's just you're out, it's stress relieving. It feels good. You're not surrounded by all this stuff. But yeah, I'm glad to hear there's there's something a little bit more happening. Well, yeah, the science behind that literally is it forces you to become present because nature is so dominant, right? And as you force to stay present, this is where your state of editing or changing your reality comes into play. Because you can only change things in the present moment. Most people, they change things from the past, they run from the past.

I'm afraid of this, so they keep running. Or they're afraid of the future. So, they're never in, say, the present moment. So, when you get into nature, it's just like, wait a second, I'm whole, I'm present right here. And this is where we could start editing. This is what happens with, again, spatial referencing. You'll start to become present of who you are. And that's where you start to see all your distortions. But not only you start to see your distortions, you start to see that you're bigger, you're more powerful than the distortions that you think you are.

And that's where we start to separate. Again, you start to become an observer of the distortion. So, spatial referencing helps you, again, connect at a deeper level without having to be in nature all the time. Because, again, in today's society, we're not in nature all the time. I've got a couple of other things that I want to make sure we hit, but I want to continue this through line a little bit. So, if somebody, regardless of what challenges they've gone through, and they start to do this, and they're like, this feels good, I'm starting to do this.

If they're trying to get to a different version of themselves without some of these problems, what does that editing process look like? Okay, so once you start to become an observer of where you are, I'll give you an example, Derrick. You want to go to, I don't know, say the Bahamas, okay? But then, you know, you tell Google Maps, or, you know, you want to buy a plane ticket, it doesn't matter, but let's just use Google Maps. And the Google Maps will go, well, where are you? And then, it's not that you lie, but you go, well, I'm over here.

But that's not really where you are, because again, you're just telling Google Maps the effect of your issues, if that makes sense to you. Spatial referencing allows you to go exactly where you are. It's like, gosh, this is how I'm rendering my life today. And then you get a solid identity calibration of where you are today. Now, some people feel relieved from it right off the bat. It's like, oh, that's why it's happening to me. And that's 50% of the cure right there, Derrick. Other people, they go, oh my god, and they, unfortunately, they cycled downwards.

But then it gives them an opportunity to go, okay, this is what it is, now I can get out of where you are. So again, spatial referencing, it's indicative in all aspects of any solution that you want, whether it's health issues or whether you want to become successful. Like I said, people like create a lot of success, but again, they lose themselves in that success because they didn't know where they started from. Yeah, yeah. One of the quotes that you've said before that I thought was really powerful, but I think you could add more color to it.

And if it fits in this is like, before you put yourself in new environments, leave your baggage behind. Yes. Can you unpack that a little bit further and kind of in context with this conversation? Yes. So, nature, by the way, I didn't design on this. Again, I researched 13.5 billion years of evolution. So, the major cause of everything that we have is because of free will, Derrick. We're not using free will to, say, enhance ourselves. We're using free will to recreate the past, okay? So anyway, what nature does is every time a new generation happens, again, the database, it sends it up into the database, the next generation comes in, and basically that database goes, oh, okay, we survived in this case, we got this disease.

Say a disease went through the lion family of this species, and it's like, oh, okay, the next generation will probably have a cure for that virus, built in already, and then it evolves more and more. Okay, so the difference in human, in the human species that I found out, because of free will, is literally is like, hey, last generation, you did the X, Y, and Z, do you want to continue on with that? And people who go through the hypermeditations, the sessions that I go through, and even the private session, they literally start to observe, it's like, wait a second, I have a choice, I have free will.

And this is where they go, God, you know what, I really don't want the same diseases as my parents do, okay? And just to take that further is from zero to seven, you're in liquid mode, okay? This is where zero to seven years of age, you're in liquid mode. Basically, that child has the handbook on how they should be, like perfect. They have a handbook on, say, the possible limitless self of who they are. They also have the handbook of their environment, their current environment. But then by the time they get five or six, it's like, you know, because that door is closing, they're turning from liquid to more of a gel phase.

Right. And they go, mom, dad, why, why, why? And this is they keep asking questions because they become more aware that their environment that they're living in is not the way it should be. So they keep asking, mom, why do you love in that fashion? Because they understand the real definition of love. They understand the real definition of honor. All those definitions are, again, first principle definitions. But then society dictates it this way. And then the parents, again, not realizing, the parents go, well, because I said so, because that's the way we did it.

And then they just go, shit. You know, by the time they hit seven, they throw that handbook away as like, none of these rules apply. I'm going towards this environment. And then they morph into, you know, their parents. That's heavy, Masati. I'm like, I don't have children yet, but I hear that and I'm like, oh, that makes me scared. I'm like, our power as a, as an influence on these, the future of their environment, their health, their life, their direction. I'm like, oh, okay, we need to think this out. How do we handle these situations?

What do we say when they do this? How would we say when they act like? Yeah, exactly, you know, and parents just go, because they don't know, you know, they didn't be trained on it. No, they're doing the best they can, but... Become an observer, you get to see what you pass down on in your child, not just, you know, your eyes or, you know, your bone structure or anything like that, skin color. You literally go, oh my god, I can't believe, you know, grandpa's patterns are in my kid. Yeah, yeah. And it's their choice, obviously.

But once you observe with them, they start to become observant of their environment. And this is where, you know, as they grow into a younger age or school age, they start to separate themselves from the environment against school. And they become an identity of their own, not part of the environment. And they learn from the environment rather than get distorted by the environment. What's the shift between someone like recognizing something like, I don't want to run that pattern. I don't want that health problem. And not letting that be like the negative that they're running from.

I don't know if I'm asking that question great, but it's like they're recognizing, I don't like this part of my outcomes, health, whatever that might be. But what shifts them from like, I'm focusing on the negative, which I do want your feedback on, of like what's going on there. But what's the difference between recognizing that? I don't like that. Now what's the next step to keep them from staying focused on the negative part of that? Yeah. So let's use a success example. It's just easier, but you can replace it in anything.

So basically, say, it's like, gosh, you know what? I grew up in a family where money was limited. So because of that, and you could put trauma in there, you could put abuse in there, or you could put health issues or whatever it is, right? So anyway, I grew up with a family, so I don't want that. I don't want to be poor. Yeah, I don't want to be poor. So the opposite of poor is wealth, right? 180 degrees. And that's a reference point, which is fantastic, but most people, what they do is, well, I don't want to be sick, you know, it gets healthy.

So what they start to do is, again, it's all about spatial referencing, Derrick. By the way, that's the first level of spatial referencing. Later on, you start to reference like dimensions of time and space. So again, that's just introductory referencing. So in this case, I don't want to be poor. I don't want to be sick. So what's the opposite of that, okay? And then what's the drive? What's the passion? So the more hatred you have from whatever you don't want, you create success, okay? In this case, whatever that might be.

And then there's just a formula that your body, your programming beyond your mental state, basically, goes through. It's like, oh, okay. So they became successful in this way. They used two units, two units of pain and burden and what they don't want to create one unit of success. It's just literally an algorithm, just like AI, we're all AI, super intelligent. And we create this algorithm. Oh, I get it. For every two units of pain and suffering, I create one unit of success. So these individuals go, oh, I want 10 units of success.

Well, your body, your environment starts to create more pain and suffering. In this case, 10 units, that means 20 units of pain and burden suffering for you to create 10 units of success. And if you don't believe that story, look at the people who go, Mas, and they come to me, Mas, I made a million dollars. I need that next 10 million. That will suffice me. And then they'll come back, Mas, I need 20 million. I've had guys that go, gosh, you know what? I need another billion to satisfy myself. Because again, this thing grows.

So if you had disease in that situation, your diseases would have to say, again, magnify or you'd have to pass that disease on to your kids or your loved ones, or again, be in an environment of disease to become healthy. Now, I say that, Derrick, because a lot of people haven't figured out their own health issues or their own mental state. So what do they do? They go and become health care practitioners. They go and become psychologists and so on like that, right? Because that's how we help. But again, they're trying to figure out their own issues.

They didn't figure it out. Yeah. And it keeps perpetuating, unfortunately. So we have a lot of courses that allow health care practitioners to go, gosh, let me fix my issues once and for all. And once you understand how that works, it's easier to heal somebody, help heal themselves by going, hey, I figured it out. Let me show you. And it's not about changing your modality or whatever that you practice, it's changing your presence, your frequency that you're just sending out, that signal that your gene pools, your DNA like communicates.

And that's where real health transformations happen. And this is where a lot of health care workers got a lot of doctors. They're like second highest in suicide, alcoholism, all that, because it's like damn, because a lot of health care workers, they absorb all their people's burdens and issues. I forget who said it, but I was listening to a doctor talk about it, and he was like, some people are just meant to be healers. They just need to find an avenue for it. They need to find a modality for it. So some might come from medicine, some might come from meditation, some might come from like, you know, massage or therapy or whatever it might be.

They're just trying to find a way to deliver it. And I thought, I was like, that's good. I resonate with that. I've met people in every different aspect. And I'm like, oh, you are just a healer. You are meant to change people. Exactly. And you found it through blank, you know, whatever it was. It didn't matter what you were gonna find it through. You were gonna find it because that was part of your design, if you will. Absolutely. Yeah. It's not your modality that cures or heals people. It's like your presence. So for me, I don't have a modality.

But I help people who do have modalities, like understand who they are, and their modalities work much, much better for them. I don't teach people how to become highly successful, but I teach them how to resonate at highly successful levels, and then what they do works a hell of a lot better for them. Yeah. The saying that you said earlier, that kind of the next level of spatial referencing, I've heard you talk about it before. You're like, you know, once you kind of start to observe your surroundings, and break down the elements of your environment, that's kind of spatial referencing, some of you might sense other realities, dimensions, or frequencies.

Right. What does that mean? So this is especially important for individuals who have eating disorders, for example, but a lot of mental issues or mental instability, especially as they go on to later age, right? You know, Alzheimer's and all those mental type issues, you know, psychotic issues and so on, or depression. And I can explain all that. But what that means is where you start to become an observer of who you are, for example, an eating disorders. It's an easy analogy. So that person, they've lost so much weight, they're like skin and bones, okay?

But when they look in the mirror, they actually are referencing themselves as a different version. And in that mirror, they're fat. And they see themselves in this reality through that filter. That makes sense. So when you start to spatial reference, you go, oh, wait a second. In this reality or dimension of time and space, I'm actually fat. You know, it could be from whatever trauma or whatever, from generational patterns or however it showed up. In sessions, I actually go down deep into that. But now, they go, oh, wait a second.

In this reality, I'm skin and bones. In this reality, I'm overweight. And then as you separate, they go, oh, wait, I'm in this reality though. My body is in this reality. My consciousness is in this reality. And then this is where they heal themselves almost like instantaneously from, say, eating disorders. Because eating disorders do not come from, say, brain issues. It comes from altered realities. I'll give you an example of how we've helped a ton of people who are, like, suicidal, especially, like, young kids nowadays.

So think of it as a Bluetooth receiver, okay? You've got, you know, say, the speaker, which would be, in your case, you know, say, a body, you know, your human form, and then you've got the source. Some people call it, you know, your spirit. I call it your toneless self. It's basically your blueprint of how you render yourself. That blueprint was there before you were a single cell, before you even had a brain. So we have to understand that there's a blueprint that created who we are. Does that make sense? Anyway, so that's your computer.

So the computer creates a distance, and I'll explain that just in just a second. So you're connected via Bluetooth receiver, okay, in this example. So you've got the speaker, you've got the source, and then what happens is that you start pulling away from the source. Well, it starts to get crackly, and then you get to a point where it just like ends, and there's no connection. And this is where people want to commit suicide. This is where people want to damage themselves, hurt themselves, because it sends them back to the source.

If that makes sense. It awakens them to go, what reality am I talking about? What reality am I creating myself in? And literally, that's why people like, whether it's like a severe abuse or abusing others or whether they start cutting themselves. I don't know why I'm talking about this, but I think there's some practitioner or somebody that probably deals from your show, because I can pick that up. So when you start to spatial reference them, they go, oh, wait a second, I'm so far away from who I am. And then you pull them back together and they go, wow, feels a lot better, because it's not their environment.

And this is probably one of the worst things you can say to people that are distorted like that. They go, you know what, honey, you should have everything to live for. You've got plenty of money, you've got this, you've got this. It's like, yeah, damn it, I know, but why do I feel like this? Because it's got nothing to do with their environment or mental state. It literally is on how far they are creating themselves from the reality and where they are physically. What are other ways that we can kind of change, I'll call it frequency because I've seen you talk about that.

Like, is there music, is there movement, is there light, breathing? What are some other ways that they can tap into that? Oh, absolutely. You know, people who like workout or do exercise, I would suggest just doing the exercise, not having headphones or anything like that. Just like you said, you know, you go out in nature, there's no headphones, there's no nothing. It's just us, you know. So when you start doing things like dance or whatever that you want to do, whatever, you know, floats your boat, it doesn't really matter.

Be in the moment. Just be you and whatever that you're doing. And that's it. Most people do things to preoccupy themselves. So they're kind of like in a hypnotic state, literally, right? But what I'm saying is if you flip it around and you get so much into the moment, if you're like in dance, love it and just be in that moment and you'll start to see that you'll float away into the music and as you float away, you become an observer of your body. And you actually start to love the presence that you've created. This is where people who do like plant medicine therapies, whatever it might be, we help a lot of military men go through trauma, right?

And with our courses and in plant medicine, they accelerate their healing pattern. It's all about observing what you're doing or being in the moment so strongly that you start to go, hey, this disease isn't even mine. You know, it's like my late grandpa had that and then you move it away. When people start to like put the target out there, like somebody visualizing success and like, what's your thoughts on someone like visualizing where I want to go? So this is the map idea versus the idea of like, start to visualize like you already achieved that goal.

You're already healthy, you're waking up healthy and you feel good or you're waking up successful, whatever that means to you versus like, I'm trying to get there. What's the difference between those two? Okay. So kind of finishing up what you don't want that 180 degree example, kind of extend on this because we didn't finish that concept. Again, you want to reference. So basically, what most people, they focus in on what they don't want. Right. And that's what we're talking about. They just keep focusing in on what they don't want and they magnify what they don't want.

So you want to reference this like, okay, what I don't want is here. And if you start speaking to yourself in this way, I know it sounds crazy. You start to understand that there are different versions of you. Because again, I don't help people heal this version. I just help them switch their, say, consciousness into another version where they're already healed. So what you want to do is like, oh yeah, this version of me is over here and that version is broken. And then you start to go, well, what I do want, where is that compared to where I am now?

And that gives you a direction. And I know it sounds crazy, but you literally will start to see different versions of you. Even if you're the audience listening, I know this is a recording. If you just close your eyes, just take a brief breath in and just close your eyes and ask yourself, it's like, wait a second, where am I now? And then ask yourself, where's a better version of me that already has what I want? And then you'll start to see, it's like, oh my God, it's outside of me. And then you ask, well, how do I get there?

Simple. So, this removes you because people go, well, I am healthy. I have X amount of money. But then, you're in the present moment, and then there's a filter that basically goes, no, you're not. Yeah, no, you're full of it. You're this. And yeah, you're right here. Because again, you're trying to fool yourself, and you're forcing yourself. But if you just change the goal setting words a bit, it's like, yeah, I'm here now. I want to be healthy. What do I have to do to become healthy? So if you just start to change and ask questions rather than commands, because most people aren't ready for commands, although commands work once you understand how time and space works and how your free will works.

But that's really the best way, if you're doing goal setting, it's like, yeah, I'm here, give you a reference point. I want to be there. What do I have to do? And if you go deeper, just ask yourself, what frequency do I have to activate? Or what frequencies do I have to delete? So I can resonate where I want to be or who I want to be. So you start to get away from habits and all that stuff, because again, habits and emotions, they're all surface level patterns, not say, cause level patterns. So if you just change that, even if you don't understand what frequencies are, you do at a deeper level, because this is how you render yourself here.

You just forgot who you are. Yeah, I'm glad you said that, cause that would be my question. If somebody's like, I don't even know what I'm asking myself, just do it anyway. Let it sit in your body and just see what happens. Absolutely. And you'll start to go, oh, that's how I work. That's how I render realities. And then this is where you start to become the master of your reality rather than just, it's like being in the ocean of consciousness with no motor or rudder. You know, you're just like floating along. As you were telling that, I'm kind of picturing this, and I see a lot of people who like, there's been quite a few studies where our pain response, a decent portion of it is of fear that it's going to be worse.

So like the actual, what they're feeling right now, if you really removed everything and got down to put numbers on this, just so it makes sense for the audience, they would say like, really what I feel right now in my body is a three out of ten, but the response of that and what that means to me that I'm worried that it might get worse and it might mean this and it might change this about what I could do and be, means that I experienced that at a seven out of ten. Yes. When you were telling like how to recognize where I'm at, where I want to be and then where I don't want to be, what I see that as is like recognize where I'm at right now.

I'm at the three. Right. What I would be running from is over there, but I'm not right there. I'm not at a seven. Notice that. Be aware that that's away from me. Exactly. That's not me now. Where I also want to be is over here and that's at thriving. Let that live in your consciousness, however that is. That's where I want to be, but I'm still right here. What looks or makes me feel like I can get closer to that version? Right. I'm still wrapping my head around this, but I'm trying to talk it out a little bit. Yeah, you're doing great.

Again, you start to reference where you are. You start to reference fear, and this is where you can use fear. Most people run away from fear, but fear is your ally. If you didn't have fear, I think you'd be dead pretty much. It was a very strong survival thing, right? I mean, we wouldn't be here as a human species if we didn't have pain and we didn't have fear, for sure. There's others, but... Absolutely. Fear keeps you away from those things that are gonna kill you. But most people use fear to go, oh gosh, I'm falling into what's gonna kill me.

So even that, what you just said is like, okay, my pain level is at a level three here where I am today, but I am fearing. So you're using fear to go towards what you don't want. What you wanna do is start to go, okay, my pain level is I'm afraid of going into level seven, level ten. I'm afraid if I do this, I'm gonna miss my kids' concert and all those things. We just exasperate that. And then again, we run towards the fear because we magnify what we don't want. So again, reference is like, okay, pain body is at a level seven over here.

Where's the other version of that? Just literally start asking yourselves like, hey, where's a better version? What reference or what dimension of time and space sounds crazy after it? But it's like, what dimensions of time and space am I actually, can I create a better version? So I can get to my daughter's rehearsal or whatever that you want. And you'll go, oh, that's over here. Yeah. Even in that, this is probably a little bit strange, but how do you stop people from limiting themselves on that part of it? So I'll explain this a little bit.

I was listening to Will Guadera, who is a restaurateur, and he was telling a story about his mom who had gotten cancer. And then they told her she had a very sharp period of time to live. Right. And it was like a year. And he was very young. I think he was like 10 or something like that. And they were like, you know, she won't live past your 11th birthday. And she was like, I want to see you graduate from college. That's what I want. And like she built everything in her consciousness is, I'm going to see you graduate from college.

And she passed away six hours after he graduated from college. So she built that. And I mean, look, there's all kind of things in this. But I'm like, was there a version where she didn't limit it to that? Oh, absolutely. So like we even limit ourselves in that version that we look towards. It's a big question. How do we not do that? Yeah. So again, like goal setting is like, hey, I want to see you graduate and then I'll die. Basically, that's what she's say, signing or creating an equation about. She could have said, it's like, hey, you know what?

I want to see you at least graduate or beyond. Leave the possibility open. Yeah. I want to make $10,000. You know, it's like, well, I want to make at least $10,000 or more. So, if you're goal setting, you want to create that or more. And the universe goes, oh yeah. Because if you have enough frequencies to create $10,000, why couldn't you create $20,000, $30,000, $100,000? It's literally not that much more effort. It's not that much more. Because like you said, a lot of people limit. Because where they are, they see themselves in a hole so deep.

They go, if I just can breathe a little bit easier, how many people have said that? If I can just breathe a little bit easier, I'll be happy. And the universe gives you a little bit easier breathing. It's like, oh shit, I'm not happy. That's what you asked for. That's what you asked for. So again, start to ask, it's like, oh, wait a second, I am breathing easier. So start to notice the logistics on how you created, how you can become easier in your breathing. And this is like, okay, okay, that worked. How can I do it a bit more?

How can I do it? So it's keep asking questions of your higher self, and you'll literally find the answers. There's a lot of people who get these death sentences from their doctors and so on. A high-level CEO, they gave him like about eight, nine months to live. Overweight, he had heart issues. His daughter literally had five heart surgeries by the time she was 10. And she was slated to have either donor heart, and if that didn't come in time, they were going to 3D print a heart. Yeah, that's how desperate they were.

So, we had sessions, and now, and over the course of like six months, a couple of sessions a month, and over the course, now, let's see, like five years later, guy's still alive. He's healthier than ever. He went to the Mayo Clinic. His heart is of a younger person in his 40s versus in his late 50s. He's better shaped than ever. His daughter that we worked on, you know, still has slight heart issues, but nothing compared to what it was, and she's just a normal young woman who's got her own business now. She doesn't think of herself as somebody with heart issues.

That's the biggest thing. You know, your identity is like, oh, I'm sick. That's the first filter that you put on when you wake up in the morning. Oh, wait a second. I have heart issues. I have this. And again, I'm not saying you don't. I'm just saying, yeah, observe it. And you go, well, what if I woke up one day and I didn't have heart issues? What would that look like? So start asking those questions. And when you start asking little questions like that, it's like getting your feet wet a little bit. Yeah. It's one of the weird things where it's like, I mean, we see this in the pain world, but you certainly see this in the addiction world.

It's like when we identify so much with the affliction that we have, then why would we be able to let it go? It's like you've made it part of you. The pain is part of you. Your addiction is part of you. And we even reinforce that a lot, certainly in the addiction world, is like we reinforce daily, you are part of this. This is you. Absolutely. What's interesting, Derrick, is people have addictions that I find, because one of my abilities after my near-death, my second near-death experience is literally, I can see your blueprint on what you have.

A lot of doctors come to me and is like, hey, we can't figure out what's going on with this person. Can you help me? It's like, oh. So I describe what I see and they run a test. It's like, oh, that works. So basically, I see what's going on with you. I see the cause of what originated that issue. But so I see frequencies of addictions. It's a certain, say, frequency that I see people. But a lot of people who think they're addicted, they're really not addicted. That's their own coping. It's like a coping mechanism. Without that, they'd probably commit suicide or do something, not say for the best for them.

So they just don't know how to solve the problem that they're dealing with. So they basically get drunk or do whatever to escape their current life. I don't call that an addiction. Now, there are people who are addicted. They just have to say, have that. They have to have that identity. And even those kind of real addictions like that is literally like, they have like alcohol. They get into an altered state, which makes them feel powerful. Again, they remove themselves of the reality that they're physically in and go into an altered state.

So what if you could take them into an altered state without whatever they're addicted to? And they're powerful in that realm. Yeah. Have y'all seen some of those changes with addiction? Oh, totally. And a lot of times when people start to have solutions or even a lot of the diseases, they don't know how to handle their life problems. So they go, well, I'll create cancer. It's an honorable way to disconnect, unfortunately. Right? Or people hate their job so much, you know, they die. The highest death day is Sunday night, Monday morning.

Yeah. It's like, because they hate their job, they hate their life so much, it's like, shit, I can't stand it anymore. Yeah. I'm out of here. But what if you gave them other solutions, like, hey, you know what? There's a reality that you could like your job, or there's a reality that you could do something else or something like that. And we do that all day long. You know, we get tons and tons of testimonials. You find them a solution and you give them directions to it. And it's like, damn, I don't need this cancer anymore.

And they just forget it. That's amazing. And it goes beyond obviously the concepts of like mindset and so on like that. It's literally the frequencies. Yeah. We've talked about this in different worlds of knowledge being passed down and that there was something deeper. You know, it's like we didn't just pass all our lessons down as a human species through like spoken word, you know. We didn't just like, we wouldn't have ended up where we're at today without this design of us being able to kind of share these lessons and knowledge in a different way that, you know, I think by and large science has not understood.

Absolutely. And, you know, when I do Exponential Intelligence, it's literally Exponential Intelligence MetaScience, it starts to go into that quantum realm, you know, the frequency realm. And this is what, you know, Einstein talks about, Niels Bohr, all those individuals, you know, who are great inventors, great physicists, great doctors, they go, wait a second, they go higher and higher, and they go, oh my gosh, you know, it's the world of frequencies that dictate this reality. So that's what the science or what I teach is really about.

Yeah, and it's amazing, and it gets down to the core level of, say, the issues of pretty much everything, really. Whether it's diseases or health situations or relationships, or even like quantum computers. What I do actually affects quantum computers beyond like three, 400% benchmark tests on stabilizing like quantum computers. That's how powerful we are as, say, a frequency machine. We just need to understand how we're, again, what frequencies that we resonate with. Yeah, yeah. After your latest near-death experience, what was the time after that like?

Well, my third near-death, that was the hardest. The first two were more like injuries or a new drowning, and I disconnected. I became an observer of how I was rendering. The third near-death allowed me to, I would call it a reset of my genetics. So in my family, you got diabetes, you got heart issues, we got cancers, all those things that most families have. So the third near-death allowed me, and we were in Peru, and I was with my wife and my two kids, and I probably had COVID or something. But basically, my mineral count was so low that everything just stopped.

Like literally, I didn't have a heart attack or anything like that, but everything, there was no, say, electrical activity in my body. My brain was just, they scanned my brain and it was just like mush. And then they somehow, and I saw my son holding me down as I went above the table, and then I disappeared. And it was a beautiful moment, by the way. They all are the beautiful moments because you learn a lot. You literally quantum leap into the higher version. And at that level, I came back in, you know, they injected with a bunch of minerals, you know, minerals.

And I came back, they did a brain scan, and it was of a 25-year-old person. So it was like pristine, which is like pretty crazy because I'm 65. So I haven't, I don't age like my parents now. Heart issues, diabetes, all those things just like disappeared. So the third near death just literally allowed me to set a reset at a very, very deep level, our genetic coding. In the weeks after that, was there kind of like a reintegration of like, wait, okay, I'm here, I'm back, I'm still on earth. What was that part of it? Were there challenges?

Oh, absolutely. And we all go through challenges, obviously. When you change so much, I call it detox. When you change so much, basically, it took about six months at that time. You know, the last one is the hardest. And in that case, even, you know, like Buddha or Jesus, they go through that process of like detoxing themselves, right? People who go, you know, from, say, you know, from one issue to another, they detox, they let go, or they sacrifice their old patterns, their old identity. It's a debt. So over the six months is like, I'd wake up, I was like, I'm dying again, you know, I'm dying again.

But I started to realize and I'm talking about this, because many people who go through, say, severe illness and then they heal, it's not you that's dying. I figured out, it's like, oh gosh, it's the old version of me that would have been sick, that would have had that cancer dying off. But since it is a real debt, so the old version of you peels away, you walk into the new version and it's like, oh gosh, I feel so much lighter, so much better, so much, you know, so much more fantastic. And then you get acclimated to that environment and they, and then you go, oh, there's another version.

That's even better. It's even better. So it's like having surgery after surgery after surgery after surgery, you know, to let go of all the distortions. And it's really fantastic. I actually aged younger. If you look at my pictures from, you know, say 2012 to, gosh, you know, 12 years later, pretty much, 13 years later, I look so much younger. Not just, you know, physical features and no surgeries or anything like that, but just the vibrancy of who I am. And my lab tests and all that all, you know, come back a younger person.

So Derrick, you know, you can tell the changes that you've made. So people who work, you know, with XI, Exponential Intelligence, you can tell that they made the changes. And like we were talking about, you know, in the beginning, you know, genetic coding and so on. Their kids, you know, their loved ones around them, especially the kids, especially younger ones, you know, they start to change their genetic patterns as well. It's amazing how that works. And that's where you can tell that you're affecting the frequencies because, you know, your DNA is talking between each other, and that's how we shift and transform.

Yeah. Yeah. That's how powerful that is. Yeah. I mean, I see that in, I see that in health a lot, right? Somebody like, whether they're losing weight or they're healing, they get to this point where it's like the inflection. It's like you're either going to move to this next version or you're going to stay running that pattern. Do you, are you going to let that part of your identity go of, you know, pain or obesity or whatever? And it's a hard moment, and I've seen people like let that pull them back into pain, that they weren't ready to move on and allow that death to happen.

How would you kind of guide somebody through that, if they are going in the right direction and get, they get to that point? Well, through, we have hypermanitations to help you relieve, which is really great. The hypermanitations, basically what they do, they're not just normal meditations. They guide you, they put you into a present moment, just like I said, nature does, but even more powerful in that situation. And then you start to, again, separate yourself. And then you start to see that, again, you're not dying.

You're starting to see the old version of you die. You literally will feel like two people. And this is where you just shed away, it's like taking off a robe that you've worn. It feels more like that rather than you dying off. So that's really, really important. I really, when you were saying about what you just said earlier, I was thinking about that drug, Ozempic. I think that's Ozempic. Okay, so that's totally cool. But again, they're addressing, pharmaceuticals are famous for addressing the symptoms. You don't change the person, unfortunately.

So they take Ozempic, and again, a lot of detrimental side effects to it from what I'm seeing. But you're still the same person, but you're thinner. And a lot of times that might turn out great, but a lot of times it's like, well, I still hate myself. Yeah. Same thing with money, right? Same thing with fame, you name it. Absolutely. Yeah. There's a great book, Psycho-Cybernetics. I forgot his name, but Psycho-Cybernetics. Very good book. He was an emas plastic surgeon, and it's like change the people's faces entirely, and they come back really mad at him.

It's like, well, I still look the same, and you see the difference. It's like, how can you say you look different? Frequency-wise, again, that lens that they see themselves through, that didn't change. So things like ozempic and so on like that. Guys, change your identity of who you are, again, at a frequency level, and then when you do that, you probably don't need ozempic or anything like that. You naturally will come back to a natural, say, healthy state of who you are without drugs or anything like that. But if you need it, it will be a faster process, but it will be a healthier processor.

Yeah, I know some of this is probably tough for people to like wrap their head around, but at a deeper level, it's like we all know that there's something deeper happening, like whenever we are starting to transform and change and go through this, and starting to try to get into your body and like the wisdom that's in there. Whether you're a scientist listening to this or not, I think that's very powerful for everybody. And the changes that happen whenever we get to that. I think this was the misconception whenever like the secret and like the, you know, you visualize it and it will happen, is that we miss the pathway to it of like, no, no, if you just keep thinking about that, it will come to you.

And it's like, well, there needs to be something else with it. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I think the biggest secret of the secret is that they miss the secret. Or a lot of those goal setting, you know, again, you know, in the movie Think and Grow Rich, you know, and all that, and, you know, Napoleon Hill, I mean, it's a fantastic book, you know, it's a lot of great success mechanisms. But Napoleon Hill, actually, you know, in his chapter 13 or 14 of Think and Grow Rich, he always talks about the sixth sense. He always talks about there's a bigger you that actually controls this reality.

And his later books actually talks about that. So what I do is literally an extension of Think and Grow Rich. You know, you start to understand that, wait a second, you know, there is a bigger version of me, but where am I now? And this is why, you know, the secret or visualization doesn't work, because we're not at that level of, say, creation. We stepped away from that long time ago. So if you come back and disconnect from your distortions of who you are, you start to see how powerful you are. And then, you know, people who, you know, do the courses with me, what they do is literally like what they think about starts to start to manifest in them.

So that does happen, but you have to graduate to that level. And it doesn't take long, but once you think that way, you literally like focus on something good or bad, and it'll manifest in your life. So you have to learn how to think, like basically stay neutral or non-judgmental, and then the best possibility will start coming, you know, into your space rather than, you know, what you don't want. Yeah. It's a good thing of what you don't. For most people, it's actually a good thing that they don't achieve what they visualized, because, you know, our thoughts, I think about 80% is negative.

Yeah. What, four to five thoughts are negative. Right, right. Is that that next step of like, you were talking before we started, like, thinking grow rich versus like, kind of commanding grow rich, if you will? Like, that's the deeper, like, no, I'm putting this, I'm putting this out there. This is where we're going to go. Absolutely. Absolutely. When someone's working with y'all, what's that, what's the life cycle look like? If that makes sense, like logistically, like, is this weekly? Do they go for a long period of time?

Is there checkups later? Yeah, you know, a lot of people do come to me because they've tried the medical system, they've tried whatever, and, you know, it's like their last resort because they don't believe it worked. But nowadays, more and more people are coming to me and go, oh yeah, that makes sense. So the logistics literally is, again, you don't need a session with me initially. In fact, that's not necessary. There's a lot of hypermeditations on a lot of issues that we have, you know, like addictions, whatever there might be.

We have a library of hypermeditations, and they're these meditations that you get comfortable, you listen, and that's all you do. But the frequencies in the hypermeditation start to change you, not your mindset. You know, it's not like, you know, binaural beats or anything like that that change your brain wave pattern. It changes your frequency at a very, very deep level of your identity. So just by listening to hypermeditations, there's a lot of free content that people can access, and they start to understand the world of frequencies, not the world of mindset.

They start to understand that. And then when you're ready, you know, you can have a session with me, private session, because my sessions are booked up anyway. In that way, we can accelerate. And, you know, it's really interesting, Derrick, a lot of times, like people who just came off the 10-day Know Thyself program that's still available on recording, but we do it live. You know, that Know Thyself program, within the first day, people go, shit, now I understand what's going on with me. You know, literally the first hypermeditation, you'll start to go, oh, I feel different.

People will start to, you know, experience, say, some people, they feel expansive. Some people feel what the baggage, as I call it, you know, that's binding them. So it's up to you to release it. But literally, the first hypermeditation that you listen to, you literally will start to change. In fact, if you sign up for the newsletter, you get an AM, PM meditation. And it helps you to sleep better. It helps you, again, get into the world with more, you know, more confidence, more completeness, more, say, health on that.

So that's how FACET works. Most people, from what I've seen, is like, they come for me, they come to me with a special issue. You know, like, you know, I've got, you know, heart issues and whatever. But they leave going, I actually understand what my purpose is here for. And that's really fulfilling for me. And again, what therapy could take, like, 10 or 20 years, that we could do in, you know, just like a couple hypermeditations, literally, and on that, it's just, you can see the testimonials that people give. It's crazy.

Where can people find, you mentioned it available on recording, where can people find some of that stuff, Masati? You can go to the XI code, the T-H-E-X-I code.com, or you can go to Masati, M-A-S-A-T-I dot live, and that's my YouTube channel. We do a live YouTube every week called Masati on Sunday, and we go through, life explained, we actually go through and understand, you know, like, understand the deeper meanings on why stuff happens and what you can do about it. And then we also have, like, within that, we have a series that, which I just read people.

I just scan people and tell them exactly what's going on with them. I mean, you don't have to tell me anything. You go, hey, just scan me, and I'll tell you. It's like, oh, you've got this, you've got this, you've got this. Going on. Again, I don't claim to be a doctor, but that helps a lot of people understand, you know, where they are and how they can be helped. What would you say to the person who's listened to this and gotten to this point? Good job, everybody. I know this has probably pushed some boundaries for you that might not be the most comfortable, which is good.

We've got to find those things. What would you say to the person that has gotten to this point? And they're like, okay, like, you've piqued my curiosity, but I'm still not completely bought in that, you know, changing frequencies is going to, you know, change my health, my life, my success, anything. What would be your, like, your challenge to that person? Yeah, you know, well, my challenge to that person is like, look, what have you tried in the past? And it's still not working. So you've got really nothing to lose.

You know, it's not like, you know, you're going to take some medication or anything like that. You're just going to listen to a hypermeditation. Literally, so you've got like 20 minutes to lose. I mean, I mean, if you can't do that, I mean, just take that time. Again, it's free for you. Just listen to it, you know, and you'll go, I might change. There's so many exceptions to the rule, medicals, the medical society. Science, I get all these scientists like, well, that doesn't work because there's no clinical testing.

And I'm like, well, I'm glad Einstein and all those great inventors didn't wait for clinical testing or peer reviews or anything to go, hey, this is how the society works. I mean, we'd be back by a couple of hundred years if we did that. So if your theory or if your logic has a lot of exceptions to the rule, then you need to keep searching. So that's why I tell the scientists or people go, well, I don't know if it's going to work. Well, give it a try. I mean, is your method working? Are you still ill? Are you still having relationship or success issues?

No matter, you've tried all the big names, you've tried everybody that's out there and you have a lot of money, but you're still not happy. Or you've tried everything and you're still ill. Well, gosh, is it worth it for you to take like an hour of your time, say an hour of your time, not even and go, let me give it a try? Yeah, be open to the possibility that maybe there's something deeper that's happening, perpetuating some of this stuff. Absolutely. Masati, this is awesome. This is like, I'm gonna go back to notes on this and just like journal on this episode for a while.

One of the things we ask all of our guests is if somebody is listening to this, and they can do one thing today to improve their health, what would that one thing be? That one thing is to start remembering who you really are, and you start to really understand and resonate in this idea that, you know, there's nothing for you to fix. You were never, ever, ever broken. All you have to do is remember who you truly were in the beginning before anybody told you who you were supposed to be. Once you know that, it'll guide you toward that version of who you are.

Let that sit on you, folks. That's powerful. Where else can people follow you? I know you're quite active on many channels. Where can they follow more about you? I know they can go to thexicode.com. Is that right? Yeah. thexicode.com. You can go to XI Masati, M-A-S-A-T-I, on YouTube, on Telegram, on Facebook, on LinkedIn, X Substack Channel, XI Masati, or you can go to The Human Code, you know, Substack, or XI Science, if you're a scientist and, you know, it's new, Substack Channel, but on the science, I'll be publishing white papers and all that.

So again, the science behind what I do. Love it. Thank you so much, man. I really do appreciate you taking the time and actually taking the energy to put this out into the world. I know you're impacting a ton of lives, but I appreciate it. I know these things are time consuming, and getting this information and having these conversations is not always necessary. So I appreciate it. I know that even these conversations that just shifts one person's thinking can be incredibly powerful. So I really appreciate what you're doing.

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