
Founder and CEO of Sabai Thai Spa

She Talks Confidence Podcast
March 26, 2026
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About this episode
In today’s episode, “How to Eliminate Self-Care Guilt,” host Tony Dufresne, PhD sits down with Nuttha Goutier, CEO and founder of Sabai Thai Spa. In this honest and inspiring conversation, Nuttha Goutier shares her journey from rural Thailand to successful entrepreneur, uncovering the cultural roots of our self-care guilt and, more importantly, how to let it go.
If you’ve ever felt selfish for taking a break, or struggled to make wellness a daily habit, this episode will shift your mindset and empower you with practical strategies rooted in Thai tradition and true self-worth.
Three Big Takeaways from This Episode:
Self-care is a responsibility, not a luxury. In many cultures, caring for yourself is seen as vital, not selfish. Adopting this mindset can help women let go of societal guilt and finally prioritize their well-being.
Small daily rituals make the biggest impact. You don’t need an expensive spa day. A few minutes of meditation, breathwork, gratitude, or simply a smile in the mirror each morning can start to transform your confidence and mental health.
Your well-being lifts up everyone around you. By making self-care a habit, you become a more present parent, friend, leader, and colleague. Taking care of yourself isn’t just good for you, it’s a gift to your community.
Connect with Nuttha:
Find Nuttha Goutier on LinkedIn (Nuttha Goutier), or visit sabayfinchai.com and sabaythais.com for more on her wellness philosophy, spa experiences, and franchising opportunities.
Connect with Tony Dufresne, PhD:
Explore resources and book a complimentary chat at theconfidencedoc.com, or email Tony at tony@theconfidencedoc.com.
Embrace a richer, more confident life—ditch the guilt and start thriving with intentional self-care rituals, beginning today!

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