
Chief of Police, Criminal Justice PhD, and an Author & Speaker on Ego and Leadership

An Evolving Man Podcast
June 5, 2026
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What happens when a leader confronts their own trauma?
In this fascinating conversation, Piers Cross sits down with Dr. Ron Kamacho, police chief, leadership consultant and author, to explore how emotional intelligence transformed his life and leadership.
Ron shares his journey from highly driven, ego-based leadership to a more compassionate, accountable and emotionally intelligent approach.
Together they discuss:
Childhood trauma and leadership The father wound and identity Emotional intelligence in policing Leadership under pressure Building healthy organisational culture Why ego destroys careers Self-awareness and introspection Compassion and accountability Mental health in law enforcement The future of leadership A deeply honest conversation about what it truly means to lead yourself before leading others.
Timestamps (1:03:25)00:00 Introduction to Dr. Ron Kamacho
02:05 Childhood trauma, policing and proving himself
07:30 Therapy, emotional intelligence and transformation
12:15 Leadership lessons from Afghanistan and Mexico
18:00 Humility, ego and personal growth
22:15 Leadership under pressure and SWAT experiences
28:10 Emotional regulation and self-awareness
33:20 Why leaders struggle with self-awareness
39:10 Growth mindset versus fixed mindset
43:45 Building culture through leadership
49:00 Ego kills careers
53:15 Accountability, compassion and leadership
57:30 Trauma, policing and mental health
01:01:00 Ron's book: Bringing Ego to the Forefront
01:03:25 Closing reflections
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Piers is an author and a men's transformational coach and therapist who works mainly with trauma, boarding school issues, addictions and relationship problems.
He also runs online men's groups for ex-boarders, retreats and a podcast called An Evolving Man.
He is also the author of How to Survive and Thrive in Challenging Times. To purchase Piers first book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Survive-Thrive-Challenging-Times/dp/B088T5L251/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=piers+cross&qid=1609869608&sr=8-1
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Many blessings,
Piers Cross
http://piers-cross.com/

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