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Authentic Leadership in Business with Lisa Pagotto, Founder of Crooked Compass

Lisa Pagotto · April 10, 2026

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Authentic Leadership in Business with Lisa Pagotto, Founder of Crooked Compass

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April 10, 2026 · 26 min

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Key topicsHow to design a small-group tour that doesn’t feel like a bus tour in disguiseMost group travel fails in predictable ways: generic itineraries, awkward group dynamics, and cultural experiences that feel staged. Crooked Compass counters that with deliberately small groups (2–12), careful accommodation choices that reflect place, and local partnerships that keep experiences grounded in real community. Lisa can explain what “thoughtfully crafted” actually means operationally-how you reduce friction, protect authenticity, and still deliver comfort. Retirement travel that doesn’t feel like a slow goodbyeA lot of retirement messaging quietly shrinks people’s lives-safer, smaller, more predictable. Lisa’s alternative is “you think you’ve lived?” travel: adventures designed for educated, curious travellers who still want challenge, learning, and stories worth retelling. She can talk about matching ambition to ability (without patronising anyone), choosing destinations that stretch the mind, and why “active and young at heart” is a better travel metric than age. The business lessons you only learn after a catastrophic yesSome of the most dangerous failures arrive disguised as validation-big names, exciting deals, momentum that feels impossible to slow. Lisa has lived through that moment, nearly losing everything, then being forced to reinvent during a global shutdown when her entire industry effectively disappeared. She can unpack how ego, social proof, and urgency distort judgment, and how true resilience looks less like “bouncing back” and more like rebuilding from first principles when there’s no playbook left. View all topics →

About Lisa Pagotto

Lisa Pagotto, podcast guest

Founder & CEO of Crooked Compass, Guiding Personal Reinvention Through Experience

7 figures Scaled Crooked Compass globally12 minutes Shark Tank Australia appearanceAward-winning Travel brand founder2 ventures Crooked Compass & Crooked Compass by Air

Lisa Pagotto has built her career by navigating uncertainty firsthand, founding businesses, making high-stakes decisions without guarantees, and learning what actually holds when plans fall apart. That throughline runs from the companies she’s built to the conversations she leads about resilience, leadership, and decision-making when there’s no obvious right answer.

She is the founder of Crooked Compass, an immersive travel company created in response to how surface-level modern travel had become. What began with Lisa personally designing small, story-driven journeys into complex destinations grew into a multi-seven-figure business, later gaining national attention through Shark Tank Australia. From the beginning, the focus was never volume or convenience. Crooked Compass was built around depth, cultural respect, and the willingness to handle difficult logistics in order to create meaningful experiences.

That approach was tested when global travel came to a standstill. With her industry paused overnight, Lisa chose not to wait for certainty to return. Instead, she rebuilt — and expanded — the business in unconventional ways. During the pandemic, she launched a second venture, Crooked Compass by Air, sparked by a decision that made little sense on paper: using government JobKeeper support to learn to fly when commercial aviation had shut down entirely.

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About this episode

Lisa Pagotto, Founder & CEO of Crooked Compass, joins John Golden to discuss what happens when a business loses its founding purpose — and how to rebuild when everything collapses at once. Drawing on her Shark Tank Australia experience, a near-administration crisis, and a bold COVID pivot into private aviation touring, Lisa shares the leadership principles that have kept her business growing for over 12 years. Learn more at crooked-compass.com.

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