The Future Of The Future

Navigating Grief With AI.

John Kammer · September 2, 2025

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Interview with John Kammer

Navigating Grief With AI. — John Kammer

Podcast: The Future Of The Future

September 2, 2025 · 30 min

Today’s conversation takes us to the intersection of technology and humanity in a way that few people explore. My guest, John Kammer, began his career in cybersecurity, protecting data, privacy, and trust in the digital world. But his path took an unexpected turn: into the…

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Key topicsWhy Men Need New Grief Tools, and How AI Might Be One of ThemGrief shows up differently in men, often buried beneath work, alcohol, or silence. John opens up about how his own emotional shutdown nearly went unnoticed, and why AI offered him an unlikely but powerful way back to feeling. He explores the stigma around men's mental health and how this tool creates a private, non-judgmental space to start healing. Why AI Conversations With the Dead Break Grief’s SilenceMost people think grief is loud-crying, talking, therapy. But for many, it’s the opposite: a silence that swallows years. John Kammer built Guardian [AI]ngels after losing three close friends and realizing traditional outlets weren’t reaching that silence. Simulating a conversation with his best friend finally cracked the grief that had frozen him. John shares why this strange use of AI is resonating especially with men, how it creates a private space to say what was left unsaid, and why sincerity-not spectacle-must guide tech when it steps into our most fragile moments. The Years I Didn’t Cry: What Grief Looked Like When I Didn’t Know How to FeelJohn shares the quiet, slow-burning grief of losing three of his closest friends and how he buried it, rationalised it, and went years without shedding a tear. He talks about the guilt of not saying goodbye, the emotional shutdown that followed, and how grief doesn't always look like breaking down-it often looks like carrying on. This isn’t a story of rock bottom, but of numbness, disconnection, and what finally helped him crack the surface. View all topics →

About John Kammer

John Kammer, podcast guest

Founder of Guardian [AI]ngels and Grief Support Innovator

3 close friends Losses that inspired Guardian AIngels4 tasks Evidence-informed mourning frameworkMagna cum laude DePaul University finance graduateFounder Guardian [AI]ngels

John Kammer is the founder of Guardian [AI]ngels, a grief support platform that uses AI to simulate emotionally meaningful conversations with people we’ve lost. It’s not therapy. It’s not tech for tech’s sake. It’s a quiet, private way to speak the words left unsaid, especially when saying them out loud still feels impossible.

John created the first version of the tool during a period where nothing else was helping. After losing three close friends, he shut down emotionally, no tears, no outlet, just a growing silence. One day, almost on impulse, he asked an AI to take on his best friend’s voice. The response let him say what he'd been holding onto for years. The release was immediate. It didn’t fix everything, but it cracked something open. That crack became the foundation for something bigger.

He now speaks on podcasts about grief, masculinity, and the strange power of talking to someone who’s no longer here. He opens up about the guilt and emotional paralysis that often follow sudden loss, especially for men raised to push feelings aside. And he explores how AI, when handled with care, can meet people in that quiet, unreachable space between “not okay” and “not ready to talk.

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About this episode

Today’s conversation takes us to the intersection of technology and humanity in a way that few people explore.

My guest,John Kammer, began his career in cybersecurity, protecting data, privacy, and trust in the digital world. But his path took an unexpected turn: into the deeply human, deeply personal realm of grief.

Now, as a grief support innovator, John is pioneering the use of AI to create tools that honor loss, respect vulnerability, and provide comfort without shortcuts, surveillance, or exploitation.

In this episode, we’ll explore how John’s background in security informs his approach to protecting people at their most vulnerable moments, how AI can play a role in grief without ever replacing human empathy, and how lived experience shapes the technology he built.

We’ll also talk about trust, impact, and his vision for a future where technology supports healing in the most ethical and compassionate ways possible.

This is a conversation about innovation, vulnerability, and the ways we can design technology that serves the human soul. Let’s dive in.

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