Leadership
Why Leaders Need Coherence, Not Calm, When Pressure Rises
Psychotherapist Amar Dhall explains why pressure distorts a leader's judgment, and why the answer is a coherent nervous system rather than less pressure or forced calm.
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What does coherence mean for leaders under pressure?
For Amar Dhall, coherence is the state in which a leader's body, mind and emotions work as one. It costs little energy, keeps perception clear and lets a leader stay connected to people when pressure rises. It is not the absence of pressure and it is not forced calm. It is a nervous system that responds in proportion to what is happening.
Most leadership advice is about what a leader says and decides. Amar Dhall, a psychotherapist and leadership researcher who first worked as a lawyer and law lecturer, focuses on something that happens earlier: the state of a leader's nervous system on walking into the room. In a long conversation on The Personal Success Podcast, Dhall argued that this inner state is never private.
The question at the centre of Dhall's work is how people inside a system stay connected under pressure. The answer offered is coherence, a word Dhall uses for the way complex systems organise themselves. Pressure, in this account, is not the enemy. Distorted perception is, and a leader under strain spreads that distortion to everyone who has to work around it.
What follows sets out how Dhall separates coherence from calm and from flow, why pushing through without settling first tends to backfire, and what changes when a leader moves from extracting effort to generating it. The aim is practical: a way of leading that still holds when the meeting turns tense and the deadline will not move.
Key takeaways
- Pressure distorts perception, so a stressed leader feels more certain while actually seeing less of what is happening.
- Coherence is a low-energy state where body, mind and emotions work together, not a permanently relaxed mood.
- A leader's dysregulation spreads to the team, and people often mistake that stress response for personality.
- Asking whether a decision is generative or extractive stops leaders forcing results at the expense of their people.
1. Pressure changes what leaders can see
Dhall starts with biology. The first question any nervous system asks is whether it is safe. When the answer is yes, people can engage socially, think creatively and function well. When the answer is no, physiology shifts, and so does the neural basis of perception. Unsafe, in this sense, does not require real danger. Memory and past experience can be enough to trigger it on their own.
The cruel part, Dhall said, is that this distortion feels like clarity. Under pressure adrenaline rises, and one of its effects is a greater belief in certainty. A leader in that state is most convinced of being right at exactly the moment judgment is narrowest. That is how capable people walk their talk while things are easy, then lose the thread as soon as things get difficult.
This is also why Dhall resists the idea that the fix is to strip pressure out of a system. Some pressure is necessary, and it can even act as a trigger for flow. A well-calibrated nervous system is not meant to be relaxed all the time. It is meant to respond in proportion to what is going on, and then to settle again once the moment has passed.
2. Coherence is not the same as calm or flow
Dhall uses coherence to describe the way a complex system settles into a working pattern, like a repeated shape in the clouds or a favourite band on its best night, when the whole becomes more than the sum of its players. In a person, coherence is the moment body, mind and emotions work as one. It feels relaxed, safe and switched on at the same time.
Coherence is often confused with flow, and Dhall separates the two with care. Flow is high in energy demand and happens through real-time interaction with the environment. Coherence is restorative and low in energy output, and it can be found in complete stillness. A person does not need to be coherent to enter flow, but being coherent makes flow much easier to reach.
The opposite of coherence, in Dhall's framing, is psychological entropy, a term taken from the founder of modern flow research. It shows up as reactivity, defensiveness, judgment and making every situation about oneself, and it burns a great deal of energy. Trauma, which Dhall describes as experience the body and mind have not yet been able to metabolise, is one of its biggest causes.
3. From extracting effort to generating it
Dhall is blunt about leaders who push through instead of settling first. Some first responders Dhall has worked with described their culture as full steam ahead, never mind the icebergs. That attitude treats people as an infinite resource, the same mistake businesses make when they chase infinite growth in a finite ecosystem. It may deliver for a while, but it is not how humans work.
The test Dhall offers is a single question to keep asking while moving forward: am I being generative or extractive? A leader who never asks it may hit every target and still look back in thirty years unsure whether it was a good life. Dhall points to the long-running Harvard study on relationships, which found that relationship quality is the strongest predictor of a good life.
Generative does not mean soft. Dhall is clear that hierarchy is not categorically bad and that boundaries still matter. In a respectful working relationship, people hold each other accountable and work through their differences constructively. The real measure of a leader, in this view, is whether their impact can move from being held by one person to being held by the whole system.


